Posted on 07/01/2012 3:24:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
They borrowed money from countries like France.
Unfulfilled self-esteem is the path to violence and destructiveness. They have an entitlement mentality coupled with an inability to succeed by merit. It could get ugly.
At the same time their disillusionment may lead them toward reality and conservatism. We don’t need all of them, just enough to swing the Presidency and Congress our way for a generation or two, just like the Dems had during the 20th century.
Keep in mind that Gen Y is very big, bigger than Gen X and bigger than the Boomers. If they become more conservative it’s over for liberalism. Boomers are aging and become more conservative naturally. They’ll fight for their benefits, but can be allied with for many political goals we all share. Gen X is more conservative than the Boomers. If Gen Y becomes as entrepreneurial as this market indicates they will you’ll see them become fiscal conservatives for certain.
The challenge is culture. Our children are indoctrinated to see America as Howard Zinn sees it. Peruse your local library and you’ll see graphic novels extolling the virtues of Che and telling the story of Zinn’s America. That doesn’t bode well for liberty, but there’s nothing like a freed slave. That’s why we must continue to fight and expose the lies of the left.
Generation Y is the most economically educated and astute generation yet. The Debt and its associated philosophies are cultural. Expose that fraud and things start looking pretty good for America.
I have kids and so I tend toward optimism - realistic optimism - if such a thing exists.
Idiot. I loved and love history but I knew a degree in it is useless. So I majored in economics taking tha hardest courses available including econometrics, beefed up on the math and onlky after that did I take some history courses as a "dessert" and to fulfill requirements. Worked hard and got a free trip to graudate degrees in economics. Never had a problem finding a job. With my free time I read history book and listen to history podcasts.
It's not hard to see what happened and who they might have been taking advice from. When I was college age, the advice I heard from my father was to get a degree. My dad didn't have one, but the guy in charge at his job did- in Physical Education. They worked in a manufacturing plant.
While I was in school, what I heard most often is that most people do not end up working in the field of their degree. So, for a long time the only point was to get the diploma itself. The training behind it was really immaterial, and that was true- for that time.
The problem isn't that everyone turned stupid, it's that the world changed and they didn't quite notice.
Yet, you still can't find one on the Supreme Court. How many graduates of our top state schools have ever been on the Supreme Court?
This is going to sound perhaps horrible but she needs to take that history degree hit the dating marker and because she is cute and I bet makes nice conversation find a husband who has the STEM degree and good job prospects who like history too. Going on a European trip with this nice girl might be a fun experience as she can appreciate what one is looking at.
No, no no! Work at a Chick-fil-A, make sure you get in REALLY tight with your Pastor so that you can be selected by the Up Top guys when you're young enough for them to take an interest in you. It's MUCH more to do with personality and character than actual work.
That was true when getting admitted to a college meant something but now with everybody going to college and the people who can't handle STEM getting a BA the value of a liberal arts degree has been severly diminished. Also, with the cost of tuition skyrocketing is it worth going six figures into debt for a BA degree.
I agree, and things are still changing. The "check in the box" for a degree is still worth something, although it may not be worth what was paid. My friend up the street has a daughter in college; her grades aren't that good, and she's taking psychology or sociology or something like that.
Should she continue, my friend asked. My advice was that, with a year to go, she should stick it out if her grades are good enough to graduate. It's only a little more debt than if she dropped out after 3 years, and she'll have that credential. My friend left college after 3 years to get married, and still doesn't have a degree 20 years later. She wishes she did.
The daughter is very smart, just not very mature or motivated, at 21.
College degrees in many majors don’t indicate that an applicant has actually learned to DO anything useful...
I’m simply talking about people who have destroyed their bodies with hideous tattoos, piercing and engage in bizarre gender-bending. My point had nothing to do with morality, bikers or American patriotism. It’s about an endless supply of freaking-looking young people who don’t understand why they have trouble getting jobs. Plus, I’m tired of looking at these people on the subway.
I'd like to give him good advice but honestly, I have no clue what the world is going look like even 3 years from now.
My oldest boy is a lifeguard. They’re in demand! Some facilities offer lifeguard training starting at age 15 (second son is taking it this summer). First-aid training is also valuable, and reasonably priced at a county Red Cross facility.
Maybe if you let his computer get so messed up it didn’t work at all, he’d be motivated to learn more about its operation and maintenance. My reply for any electronics issues is “Don’t talk to me, I have no idea.” They either figure it out on their own, or get help from their Dad, but he makes them pay with extra labor.
How would it be legal—let alone moral—for you to be paid at that level?
Actually, due to our government benefit structure, old age now tends to bring a defense of big government.
Why go to one of the best engineering schools and major in History? She is hot, but those geeky engineering students weren’t good enough for her I guess. No MRS degree for this idiot.
Eventually, that will happen. The "Home Schooling" movement is (was?) the start. The thing that the "ed biz" has previously provided was some "up front" measure of how well an individual was equipped to function in/at some kind of work that prospective employers could count on. They have successfully diluted/denigrated that function to the point where they/it no longer serve(s) that purpose. Guilds and unions once did this task, but they abandoned it (mostly) to the "professional educators".
One proposal that I saw that actually makes a kind of sense is some (or a group of) certified testing facilities. An individual would go to one of them, take a written plus practical comprehensive exam, and be "blessed" as skilled to a certain degree in a certain subject, thus divorcing the mode of obtaining the skill from the proof of possessing it.
But it's a BIG ship, and changing direction will take time. I think the end result will be exactly as you postulate.
Thank you for you long and thoughtful response. I learned a lot.
“In today’s world its all about a SURVIVAL PLAN and if you aren’t immediately flexible you are dead meat.”
Point is, while all these other kids have no clue what they are doing with their degree, my kid is already looking at how she is going to use her degree when she gets out of school. Most of the libs minor in something like literature or sociolgy. Mine is already taking business classes.
Frankly, when she told us her plan, my wife and I looked at each other and said, “dayem, that’s good.”
I’m not married or have kids, but I’d tell mine, “I know it’s tough. But right now, just get in the game. Start somewhere!”
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