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Rep. Waxman: Republicans can repeal Obamacare with 51 votes
The Washington Examiner ^ | July 2, 2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 07/02/2012 12:09:41 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Republicans can repeal Obamacare with a 51-vote majority in the U.S. Senate through budget reconciliation, according to an architect of the health care law, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., who also made a death panel-style indictment of the Republican budget.

“I think they could do it,” Waxman told Newsmakers when asked about reconciliation. “I think the American people have to understand that if they vote for Romney and they vote for Republicans to have control of the house and the senate, there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these benefits will be wiped out.”

After denouncing Republicans for saying that Obamacare would lead to death panels — people who ration health care and thus end up denying care to some people — Waxman deployed the same kind of argument against Republicans.

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1 posted on 07/02/2012 12:09:50 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“I think the American people have to understand that if they vote for Romney and they vote for Republicans to have control of the house and the senate, there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these benefits will be wiped out.”

And? What's your point nostrils? Most of us want it gone.

FMCDH(BITS)

2 posted on 07/02/2012 12:14:45 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just trying to rally the base by saying those evil republicans are going to take away their shiny new benefit.


3 posted on 07/02/2012 12:15:43 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yes, we know, Batboy. What’s your point?


4 posted on 07/02/2012 12:15:43 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Dats da plan, Pigman...


5 posted on 07/02/2012 12:16:06 PM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“...the health care bill will be wiped out and all these benefits will be wiped out.”

Benefits? What frickin’ benefits??


6 posted on 07/02/2012 12:18:07 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

:: if they vote for Romney and they vote for Republicans to have control of the house and the senate, there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these benefits will be wiped out. ::

Another spot-on prognostication by Nostril-damus.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 12:18:26 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“I think they could do it,” Waxman told Newsmakers when asked about reconciliation. “I think the American people have to understand that if they vote for Romney and they vote for Republicans to have control of the house and the senate, there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these benefits will be wiped out.”

Do you think enough voters can be found who believe Henry Waxman's statement? If so, Obamacare will be junked, as it should be.

8 posted on 07/02/2012 12:18:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

9 posted on 07/02/2012 12:19:25 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He didn’t even read the damnable thing...he’s got a lot of nerve to talk about “benefits”. But then again, it doesn’t apply to him and Congress.


10 posted on 07/02/2012 12:19:25 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hey, don’t complain when the Dems go ahead and give a reason to toss these idiots out on their rumps! If Henry Waxman wants to campaign for a republican takeover, please get out of his way!!


11 posted on 07/02/2012 12:20:45 PM PDT by In Maryland ( "... the [Feds] must live with the inconvenient fact that it is a Union of independent States)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Republicans can repeal Obamacare with a 51-vote majority in the U.S. Senate

I thought it was 57 votes - one from each state?

12 posted on 07/02/2012 12:20:45 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Old Sarge

Listen.

Notrildumbass knows a thing or two about driving a stake through something to kill it.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 12:23:11 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“all these benefits will be wiped out” What benefits?

26 year old freeloader on Dad’s policy and no $20 co-pay for your mammogram? Good luck with THAT argument.


14 posted on 07/02/2012 12:23:24 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Free ThinkerNY; P-Marlowe; Forest Keeper

I disagree that they can pass it by reconciliation. First, they have to get the support to even get reconciliation considered, and second, they have to meet the defined, legal criteria for being considered for reconciliation (I think there are 5 points that must be met), and then they have to be rino-free.

Rinos will work, first, to blow up any effort in that direction, and, second, if that fails, then they’ll withdraw their support at critical junctures in the process.

Finally, you have to believe Flip Romney, the grandfather of ObamaCare, that he really will do this.

I’m betting that John Roberts gave us ObamaCare, and that the US will become a German-style social democracy under Romney. (Better German than Greek, I suppose).


15 posted on 07/02/2012 12:24:11 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Congressman Henry 'nostrils' Waxman assumes that Americans will just see the word 'benefits' and pant for them with no questions asked as to the truth of his statement or the real cost and loss of freedom in our medical decisions. Sadly, some will do just that but at this late date, most Americans realize that Obamacare is hardly a 'benefit' to working Americans and treats us like cattle. Screw Obama and his Dumbo ears as well as Henry Waxman and his gigantic, piggy nostrils. I'm sick and tired of these smug neo-communists attempting to destroy our economy and usurp our freedoms while treating us like imbeciles.
16 posted on 07/02/2012 12:27:26 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: xzins

I’m betting Greek style is more likely. The Germans at least have an efficient bureaucracy if such a thing can be said about it.


17 posted on 07/02/2012 12:27:34 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

I vote SCHNITZEL!

(I’m afraid, however, it’ll be eggplant mousakka.)


18 posted on 07/02/2012 12:32:34 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is a weak beginning to a campaign that will threaten most people with the immediate loss of their health insurance in the event of a Romney win combined with a Republican senate.


19 posted on 07/02/2012 12:33:02 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The problem here, from what I understand is that Republicans can pass it with 51 votes but the President can veto it.


20 posted on 07/02/2012 12:33:21 PM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Well that is if daddy doesn't get his health care dropped by his company in favor of paying the $2,000.00 instead of supplying the employee with the care and if daddy can not afford a health care policy on his own he will only have enough to pay the fee which by the way is 2.5% of your salary or approx. 2,058.00 whichever is Greater (2.5% for a $130K salary is greater than 2,058.) and it is per person for each family member. Nice benefits our family can't wait
we get to pay the penalty and have no health care awesome.
21 posted on 07/02/2012 12:33:35 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Dems always talk about the "benefits."

They never mention the drawbacks, like:

And our media never calls them out on the drawbacks.

22 posted on 07/02/2012 12:37:54 PM PDT by eCSMaster ('Nancy Pelosi is a DINGBAT.' - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: RC2

uh oh..

i just thought of something

what if Obama DOES NOT veto it? it would be the only thing that could get him re-elected at this point


23 posted on 07/02/2012 12:38:09 PM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

What gets me is how they call these things “free”. How stupid do you have to be to think this stuff is free???

Personally I don’t care if someone wants their 26 year old kid on their policy as long as they pay for it. But couldn’t that kid just get his own policy cheaper - given the young age??

Unfortunately this law will probably just accelerate our decent into a Greek style implosion. Maybe that’s what Obama is after but I have to doubt that after a Cloward Pliven crisis that we’d end up communist - more likely we go back to 1776 I think.


24 posted on 07/02/2012 12:39:39 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Benefits? FREE HEALTHCARE!

That’s what most of its supporters believe it is.

Of course, it actually will be “free” for the 0bamapeople. That was the point of this - to reward favored groups and punish non-favored groups.


25 posted on 07/02/2012 12:41:00 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: xzins

I don’t see howa bill passed by reconciliation cold not be repealed by reconciliation.


26 posted on 07/02/2012 12:46:04 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We ALL need to be praying AND fasting for the next several months!!


27 posted on 07/02/2012 12:46:29 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“.....there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these TAXES will be wiped out.”

There I am sure that is what Waxman meant to say.


28 posted on 07/02/2012 12:46:36 PM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: Mr. K

First things first.

The nagging fear that I have is that our “learned” Republican Senators and Reps will come up with a replacement plan rather than accept the fact that they are really no smarter than the Democrats and should just turn it over to the states to handle as they see fit. It is a whole lot easier for voters to control the outcome of something in their own state than when they get together as a herd in DC.


29 posted on 07/02/2012 12:49:59 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: xzins

I don’t see how a bill that qualified to be passed via reconciliation could not be repealed via reconciliation.


30 posted on 07/02/2012 12:50:43 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Mr. K

I don’t believe he would allow himself to do that. It would be admitting that he made a mistake. It would also turn the remaining Democrats against him.


31 posted on 07/02/2012 12:51:03 PM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Nostrildamus makes a prediction!


32 posted on 07/02/2012 12:52:24 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: KansasGirl

It is a new bill. The new bill will be entitled something like: “Repeal of ObamaCare”

It will even be a new Congress with entirely different people in many places.

It is not another vote on an old bill.


33 posted on 07/02/2012 12:52:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Leftists can lie if they please but there is no benefit for anyone under death care. It is more taxes on hard working Americans and will not benefit any of us. It will downgrade the health care of all comers. It will not discriminate in that.

It will cause the loss of countless American jobs while killing off the sick and old. Life will only continue to be less livable. And the taxes Americans pay for this abomination will continue to rise. It is unsustainable.


34 posted on 07/02/2012 12:54:52 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Aria
Maybe that’s what Obama is after but I have to doubt that after a Cloward Pliven crisis that we’d end up communist - more likely we go back to 1776 I think.

Either way he wins, by neutralizing the US as a world power.

35 posted on 07/02/2012 12:57:39 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Yes, our position is going down the tubes. Whoever has oil will prevail.


36 posted on 07/02/2012 1:00:35 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

(s)

Granpa too cranky?

Grandma just too push and demanding?

Obama care is the cure for anoying old people!

One easy to do ruling declaring those anoying relatives at “end of life” (wink wink) and presto! family burden GONE in an Obama instant!

no nursing home paperwork!
no guilt for not visiting grandma on Christmas!
no endless listening to grandpa say the same story again!

Obamacare is the antidote for living!

just do not have kids of your own....

(/s)

Dr. Obama’s book of Government Approved Medical Treatments:
(not quite but close)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZQ01IrU5d0


37 posted on 07/02/2012 1:00:35 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

well somebody is at least paying.

If Dad is ok with paying and it does not cost the taxpayer, then ok it is free market. (actually surprised they don’t have it offered)


38 posted on 07/02/2012 1:04:44 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MrB
Benefits? FREE HEALTHCARE!

Free for the people it doesn't kill off!

39 posted on 07/02/2012 1:05:53 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Aria

1776?

Far more likely 1789, 1861 or 1917.

Miracles do not cluster.


40 posted on 07/02/2012 1:07:53 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I think the American people have to understand that if they vote for Romney and they vote for Republicans to have control of the house and the senate, there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these.....

....TAXES,....Death panels.....and hundreds of unelected committees.....and 16,000 IRS agents will all be abolished....

....when ObambiCare goes down.

41 posted on 07/02/2012 1:13:53 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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Hey brontoursaurous rexaus maximumious nostrilsaourus. How about you and EVERY congresscritter get on this plan for the next five or seven years and then tell us how much you @ holes like it for your health insurance?
42 posted on 07/02/2012 1:25:03 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

through budget reconciliation

If anyone needed any more information on exactly WHY the US Senate has failed to produce a budget for around 1100 days this should answer all of your questions.

NO BUDGET, no budget reconciliation. The end.


43 posted on 07/02/2012 1:28:34 PM PDT by wita
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“I think they could do it,” Waxman told Newsmakers when asked about reconciliation. “I think the American people have to understand that if they vote for Romney and they vote for Republicans to have control of the house and the senate, there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these benefits will be wiped out.”

Yep, the Democrats will be rallying their troops with this information, so we need to be doing the same!

44 posted on 07/02/2012 1:34:30 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: BlatherNaut

1776? I hope you are right. We drove away the Tories, confiscated their property . . . it wasn’t pretty, revolutions never are. Imagine the sight of Pelosi/Reid running for their lives, seeking refuge en La Casa Blanca.


45 posted on 07/02/2012 1:36:18 PM PDT by Jacquerie (A republic no more.)
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To: nothingnew
“I think the American people have to understand that if they vote for Romney and they vote for Republicans to have control of the house and the senate, there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these benefits will be wiped out.”

From your lips to God's ear!

Cosmo Kramer: I'm tellin ya the pigman is alive. The governments been experimenting with pigmen since the fifties.

46 posted on 07/02/2012 1:49:49 PM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject)
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To: Old Sarge

47 posted on 07/02/2012 2:01:29 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Waxhead is right that the Republicans need a simple majority in the Senate but, in reality, it always takes about 54 Republicans to do the work of 51 once RINOs like Olympia Snow and That Traitor Bastard McCain gum up the works.


48 posted on 07/02/2012 2:16:34 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He looked round the canteen again. Nearly everyone was ugly, and would still have been ugly even if dressed otherwise than in the uniform blue overalls. On the far side of the room, sitting at a table alone, a small, curiously beetle-like man was drinking a cup of coffee, his little eyes darting suspicious glances from side to side. How easy it was, thought Winston, if you did not look about you, to believe that the physical type set up by the Party as an ideal--tall muscular youths and deep-bosomed maidens, blond-haired, vital, sunburnt, carefree--existed and even predominated. Actually, so far as he could judge, the majority of people in Airstrip One were small, dark, and ill-favoured. It was curious how that beetle-like type proliferated in the Ministries: little dumpy men, growing stout very early in life, with short legs, swift scuttling movements, and fat inscrutable faces with very small eyes. It was the type that seemed to flourish best under the dominion of the Party.
49 posted on 07/02/2012 2:31:00 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

HA! I like yours better than mine! LOL!


50 posted on 07/02/2012 8:26:52 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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