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Report: Roberts switched his vote on the mandate (Kennedy led effort to bring him back to the fold)
Hotair ^ | 07/02/2012 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 07/02/2012 1:21:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Based on the Admin’s public denials that this is a tax, the plaintiffs have three weeks from today to file a motion to reconsider with SCOTUS.


21 posted on 07/02/2012 2:20:03 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: SeekAndFind
Reading the tea leaves of public opinion??????

And the constitutional application there is WHAT, Roberts??

So you sold the country`s future for praise from the media??

A**hole...

22 posted on 07/02/2012 2:24:21 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: SeekAndFind

JMO, but I don’t think CJ Roberts ever had any intention of throwing out the whole bill.

I think he was initially in favor of removing the mandate and leaving the rest of the law intact. When the conservatives rejected his argument, he jumped sides and used tangled reasoning to get around his main objection, overreach of the Commerce Clause.

It’s FUBAR anyway you look at it.


23 posted on 07/02/2012 2:26:20 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps Kagan influenced ROBERTS to change his mind to fulfill her appointment mission.


24 posted on 07/02/2012 2:28:45 PM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH (Is a tax a mandate or is a mandater a tax? In the meantime, we're being ripped off!)
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To: Bratch
Okay, it wasn't JMO but I couldn't remember where I'd read it.

Here's a story that discusses it:

The Flip That Will Flop?

Sunday on Face the Nation, Jan Crawford of CBS News said that two reliable sources told her that Roberts originally voted, in late March, with the four conservative justices to invalidate the individual mandate. According to Crawford, Roberts suddenly changed sides some six weeks later and then resisted “a month-long desperate campaign by the conservative justices to bring him back to the fold.”

I’ve learned from my own sources that after voting to invalidate the mandate, the chief did express some skepticism about joining the four conservatives in throwing out the whole law. At the justices’ conference, there was discussion about accepting the Obama administration’s argument, which was that, if the individual mandate was removed, the provisions governing community rating and guaranteed issue of insurance would have to go too but that the rest of the law might stand. The chief justice was equivocal, though, in his views on that point.


25 posted on 07/02/2012 2:39:49 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Ann Archy

Stop it! You are saying that all over the board. Unless you KNOW...keep it to yourself.


26 posted on 07/02/2012 2:48:19 PM PDT by madison10 (Still trying to find that silver lining in that Death-of-the-U.S.A. tornado funnel...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The two “unnamed sources” were likely Scalia and Kennedy who were talking to CBS on background because they are ticked off at Roberts.


27 posted on 07/02/2012 2:50:00 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is what I don’t understand

The democrats and Obama are completely dedicated to disarming America going as far as the Fast and Furious scandal

Yet in the Heller decision Roberts voted with the conservatives

If there was any vote the Dems wanted to pressure him on why not then


28 posted on 07/02/2012 2:50:58 PM PDT by uncbob (ent)
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To: uncbob
Yet in the Heller decision Roberts voted with the conservatives

If there was any vote the Dems wanted to pressure him on why not then

"Overwhelm and crash the system"... obamataxcare will do this.

29 posted on 07/02/2012 2:53:30 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: Ann Archy
The clear implication is that Roberts initially wanted to do away with the mandate but was reading the tea leaves of public opinion

Yeah right the public opinion like in the 2010 election results
30 posted on 07/02/2012 2:53:34 PM PDT by uncbob (ent)
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To: Standing Wolf
Roberts did the wrong thing by the Constitution. I don't care why he did it. I don't care how he did it. I don't care when he decided to do it or who nudged or pushed or threatened him. He did a monumental wrong thing, and he's earned his place in history as a betrayer of our nation.

Needs repeating.

31 posted on 07/02/2012 2:55:54 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ironically, Justice Anthony Kennedy --- believed by many conservatives to be the justice most likely to defect and vote for the law --- led the effort to try to bring Roberts back to the fold.

Maybe. It's also possible that Kennedy agreed with Roberts and they decided to let Roberts take the heat for the decision. I don't have any evidence for that, but this part of the story looks a little fishy to me.

32 posted on 07/02/2012 3:07:57 PM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney’s total lack of response to Roberts betrayal of the Constitution makes me wonder if there is some collusion between the two to throw the election to obama.


33 posted on 07/02/2012 3:14:45 PM PDT by jesseam
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney’s total lack of response to Roberts betrayal of the Constitution makes me wonder if there is some collusion between the two to throw the election to obama.


34 posted on 07/02/2012 3:15:21 PM PDT by jesseam
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To: madison10

I’ll say it if I want to, girlie.,.....GOOOGLE it....the info is THERE.


35 posted on 07/02/2012 3:16:02 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: x

No, there are some other stories out suggesting that Kennedy is royally ticked off at Roberts, and that he’s talking about it on background to some media acquaintances of his.


36 posted on 07/02/2012 3:26:11 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: sickoflibs
He woke up and found his horses head in his bed next to him and went back and changed his tune on Obama-care.

I'm thinking more along the lines of a hamster.

37 posted on 07/02/2012 3:38:06 PM PDT by norton
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To: Ann Archy

Occam’s Razor: He’s a liberal, and it will not be his last liberal vote.


38 posted on 07/02/2012 3:43:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: x
Kennedy has sided with the conservatives far more often than he is given credit for. On the other hand, Roberts has quite plainly indicated he has no intention of finding and bill passed by the Federal government unconstitutional in its entirety.

Way back in April, I predicted to my brother in law that Kennedy would not be the problem and that if there was any concern it was what Roberts would do.

39 posted on 07/02/2012 5:14:24 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: CharacterCounts
You probably know more about it than I do.

Like I said, I don't have any evidence or any real knowledge of the personalities involved in this specific case, just a gut feeling.

When things get leaked to the press, I tend not to believe the story that somebody got angry or indignant and suspect that somebody is trying to advance an agenda, to create a spin, or to deceive the public.

That just seems truer to my experience of leaking. It's more the cold-blooded and devious who leak than the righteously angry people who have actually been offended. In my experience, the latter tend to stew in their own juices.

Time will tell, I guess.

40 posted on 07/02/2012 5:29:02 PM PDT by x
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