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To: SeminoleCounty

The Zimmerman case is more complicated than that.

He never should have played cop.

He certainly never should have got out of his SUV.

Think about it.

You are walking down the street. A black SUB with dark tinted windows is stalking you. Suddenly a guy gets out of the SUV. What would you think? You would think bad things are about to happen. And they did.

I think it was a case of two dumb asses meeting in the dark.

Both made serious mistakes. Martin thought Zimmerman was a thug, Zimmerman thought Martin was a thug. None of which would have been if Zimmerman had not been playing cop.


5 posted on 07/09/2012 7:25:14 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

Sounds about right to me, but it won’t satisfy the partisans of either team, I’m afraid.


9 posted on 07/09/2012 7:35:24 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: old curmudgeon

How do you know what martin thought? Zimmerman was doing his job as a neighborhood watch volunteer. Martin would still be alive if he had not violently attacked Zimmerman.


12 posted on 07/09/2012 7:42:09 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: old curmudgeon

The Zimmerman case is more complicated than that.

He never should have played cop.

He certainly never should have got out of his SUV.

Think about it.

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Well you obviously haven’t thought about it very much. Just how many people do you go and beat up because they were watching you. There is a sign at the entrance to the community that says that you will be watched and may be asked what your business is in this complex.

Martin was in a fight club. He was a burgular with stolen merchandise that he was caught with. He beat people up for fun. He was high on Marijuana and who knows what else.

Zimmerman was doing his responsible civic duty after all the burglaries they have had in his community.

Zimmerman did NOTHING WRONG and Travon Martin was a thug wannabe. Martin got what he asked for. I wish more people were as responsible as Zimmerman watching out for burglars, perhaps there would be less of this awful crime.

One thing for sure, Martin won’t be beating up anybody else or burglarizing anybody else’s home.

Good riddance to filthy rubbish.


15 posted on 07/09/2012 7:53:08 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: old curmudgeon

Overdose of logic. What you say is true, but you’ll still get flamed for it. Outside the accepted script. Anyways, I know for a fact if I am minding my business and I notice a car following me, at night, and then the chap gets out to come and ask me questions that guy would be walking up to a gun pointed at him. I wouldn’t take the chance to find out if he wants to ask what time it is, ask for directions, ask what I am doing there, or mug me. I’d tell him to back off, and if he didn’t ...well, he should.


17 posted on 07/09/2012 7:59:03 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: old curmudgeon
The Zimmerman case is more complicated than that.

You couldn't be more wrong. Martin was high as a kite. Zimmerman did nothing wrong or against the law - before or after shooting Martin.

19 posted on 07/09/2012 8:06:01 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: old curmudgeon

Methinks you should watch a little less MSNBC. You know zip zero about the Zimmerman case


33 posted on 07/09/2012 8:40:22 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Romney has foreign assets.....Obama has foreign birth certifcates)
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To: old curmudgeon
Both made serious mistakes. Martin thought Zimmerman was a thug, Zimmerman thought Martin was a thug. None of which would have been if Zimmerman had not been playing cop.

Save it. Martin was high on purple drank, the neighborhood watch had been successful for a long time, Zimmerman had every right to look at someone, Zimmerman broke off when it was suggested - not ordered- by the dispatcher, and then there are phone records indicating both Zimmerman and Martin separated at that point, but that Zimmerman was afraid to tell the dispatcher his address, because he couldn't find Simmerman and thought he might be being stalked.

Then, on his own, Martin circled back around, declared his intent to kill Zimmerman, and attacked him in a way that could easily have killed him.

Martin was a punk who got exactly what he deserved for attacking Zimmerman, unprovoked, with intent to kill, while high on drugs.

And you can take your violent, racist idea that people need to avert their eyes from black people or they deserve to be attacked, and shove it.

I hope that was clear.

41 posted on 07/09/2012 9:00:07 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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I’ve been following this incident pretty closely. Z wanted to be able to give a location to the police. He called the 911 dispatcher, who asked if Z were following Trayvon and then told him that “we don’t need you to do that.” At which point Z answered saying “OK.” The altercation took place on the sidewalk where Z’s head was repeatedly slammed into the concrete, suggesting that Z was no longer on the lawn but was on his way back to his truck. Looks like Trayvon approached Z from the rear.


45 posted on 07/09/2012 9:15:14 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: old curmudgeon

He was a thug.

He was a dealer.

He was high on “Purple Drank”.

He died a stoned thug.

Zimmerman was not “playing cop”.

Think about it? You should try your own advice.

THE FN END.


59 posted on 07/09/2012 10:30:58 PM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: old curmudgeon
He certainly never should have got out of his SUV. Think about it.

Yeh -- and Wendy Fischer should never have owned a dog. Think about it -- then go take a long nap.

72 posted on 07/10/2012 4:24:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: old curmudgeon

Big fail by you. You thought you would be clever by splitting the Zimmerman-Trayvon incident down the middle. Blame both parties equally. Where the heck does some black teenager get off beating an older man? I would not dream of doing it to an older white man or older black man.

You are giving a pass to the black thug culture that comes with the hip hop music culture. You are giving a pass to ayoung black thus who felt dissed, so went on a rampage


85 posted on 07/10/2012 5:37:09 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: old curmudgeon
"The Zimmerman case is more complicated than that.

He never should have played cop."

He didn't "play cop" by any account. Following someone on a public street isn't illegal. For all TM knew, he wanted to ask him for a joint. GZ never "confronted" TM, only the other way around.

What is illegal is punching someone and then bashing his head against concrete. If you do that and then get shot, tough.

All the actual evidence so far support GZ's story, we'll see how that holds up during the trial - that is if O'Mara does a halfway decent job.

92 posted on 07/10/2012 6:05:53 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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To: old curmudgeon

NOBODY knows what ANYBODY thought....the evidence backs Zimmerman.


103 posted on 07/15/2012 7:05:34 AM PDT by Grand
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NOBODY knows what ANYBODY thought....the evidence backs Zimmerman.


104 posted on 07/15/2012 7:05:42 AM PDT by Grand
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NOBODY knows what ANYBODY thought....the evidence backs Zimmerman.


105 posted on 07/15/2012 7:05:51 AM PDT by Grand
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To: old curmudgeon
None of which would have been if Zimmerman had not been playing cop.

What if Zimmerman had been an undercover agent or an off duty policeman ? What do cops do to you when you punch them in the face, and start going MMA on them?

Why didn't Martin stay home once he got there? He had lost Zimmerman, why go back and sneak up on him, instead of calling the cops on 911 ?????

112 posted on 07/15/2012 8:16:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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