To: Brookhaven; DaiHuy; SkyDancer; rllngrk33; AFreeBird; DoughtyOne; verga; ...
The claim that Jesus was a Muslim is actually standard, orthodox Islam...something all Muslims believe.
They lump Jesus, all the OT prophets, David, Moses, and of course Abraham (and ESPECIALLY Ishmael) ALL into the “Muslim” camp... In doing this they try to co-opt all the godly men before Mohammed, and deny the legitimacy of Judaism and Christianity, as they these—and the Bible—are supposedly “corruptions” of true Islam.
Of course there is no evidence the Tanak (Old Testament) or the New Testament were corrupted...but, facts and real history have never stopped belief in Islam.
It’s not as odd as it may seem, as we tend to think of Abraham as a Jew—thought that name only came over 1,000 years later through one tribe named after one of Abraham’s 12 great-grandsons, Judah.
For a professor though, buying into an explicitly sectarian religious claim, is totally miserable though. I’d expect this from some Imam somewhere...but a professor? Sad.
82 posted on
07/11/2012 3:40:18 PM PDT by
AnalogReigns
(reality is analog, not digital...)
To: AnalogReigns
But how can they lay claim to any of that since Islam wasn’t “invented” until AD600 or thereabouts?
104 posted on
07/11/2012 4:10:47 PM PDT by
SkyDancer
("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
To: AnalogReigns
The claim that Jesus was a Muslim is actually standard, orthodox Islam...something all Muslims believe.
Thanks for the mention. I wasn't aware of that. Imagine us labeling all Arabs of the Ishmael line, Jews. Bet they'd love that.
They lump Jesus, all the OT prophets, David, Moses, and of course Abraham (and ESPECIALLY Ishmael) ALL into the Muslim camp... In doing this they try to co-opt all the godly men before Mohammed, and deny the legitimacy of Judaism and Christianity, as they theseand the Bibleare supposedly corruptions of true Islam.
And as you mention in a moment here, we ( I also) are guilty of this to a certain degree ourselves, in that Jews didn't exist in name until later. Where lineage goes back to share origins, it is reasoned to at least mention the connection. Beyond that, there is a problem. And of course, taking it to the level Islam does, it's way beyond the pale.
Of course there is no evidence the Tanak (Old Testament) or the New Testament were corrupted...but, facts and real history have never stopped belief in Islam. Safe to say... ;^)
Its not as odd as it may seem, as we tend to think of Abraham as a Jewthough that name only came over 1,000 years later through one tribe named after one of Abrahams 12 great-grandsons, Judah.
Yes, and I appreciate the mention. It's easy to get caught up in this if you're not careful and precise.
For a professor though, buying into an explicitly sectarian religious claim, is totally miserable though. Id expect this from some Imam somewhere...but a professor? Sad.
Yes, you're right on target here. I will say that there is so much anti-White/anti-Christian thinking out there these days, that almost any tenet of these groups core beliefs, is fair game to certain professors.
It's basically open season on these demographics.
Where tolerance is demanded or else, these folks get away with just about anything.
I am quite strident in my thought that if a college, university, or even K-12 school wants federal dollars, they must be able to show that their staff is diverse. Schools where 85-90% of the staff are card carrying Leftists who hate the United States should not exist.
135 posted on
07/12/2012 3:49:13 PM PDT by
DoughtyOne
(Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
To: AnalogReigns
Maybe he’s just welcoming his coming Muslim overlords?
136 posted on
07/13/2012 6:49:36 AM PDT by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: AnalogReigns
Maybe he’s just welcoming his coming Muslim overlords?
137 posted on
07/13/2012 6:49:41 AM PDT by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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