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US, China square off over South China Sea
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 12, 2012 | BRADLEY KLAPPER

Posted on 07/12/2012 2:17:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

PHNOM PENH, Cambodia (AP) — The Obama administration pressed Beijing on Thursday to accept a code of conduct for resolving territorial disputes in the resource-rich South China Sea, a difficult U.S. mediation effort that has faced resistance from the communist government. It has endeared the U.S., however, to once-hostile countries in Southeast Asia.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton met with Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi on the sidelines of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations' annual conference.

Sitting across from each other at a long table in a grand hall with chandeliers, Clinton stressed the different ways Washington and Beijing are cooperating. Yang spoke of building an even closer U.S.-Chinese relationship. Neither side spoke about the South China Sea while reporters were allowed in the room.

Several Asian governments have expressed worry about China's expansive maritime claims. Tensions have threatened to boil over in recent months, with a standoff between Chinese and Philippine ships and sharp disagreements between China and Vietnam.

China claims virtually the entire area and has created an entirely new city to administer it, sparking deep concern from rival claimants. The sea hosts about a third of the world's cargo traffic, has rich fishing grounds and is believed to store vast oil and gas reserves.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; chineseempire; evilempire; imperialists; landgrab; naturalresources; southchinasea; territorialdisputes

1 posted on 07/12/2012 2:17:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sending this clueless bag of crap to deal with the Chinese leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Nothing good can come of this.


2 posted on 07/12/2012 2:44:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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April 30, 2001: Communist, Nationalist and Dangerous........"If you tackle Chinese people on this, they usually say: "How would you feel if there were Chinese troops in Mexico and Jamaica, and Chinese planes flying up and down your coasts?" Leaving aside the fact that front companies for the Beijing regime now control both ends of the Panama Canal, as well as Freeport in the Bahamas, the answer is that the United States is a democracy of free people, whose government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed, so that the wider America's influence spreads, the better for humanity: while China is a corrupt, brutish, and lawless despotism, the close containment of which is a pressing interest for the whole human race. One cannot, of course, expect Chinese people to be very receptive to this answer.

Or, indeed, to anything much we have to say on the subject of their increasingly militant and assertive nationalism. We simply have no leverage here. It is no use trying to pretend that this is the face-saving ideology of a small leadership group, forced on an unwilling populace at gunpoint. The Chinese people respond eagerly to these ultra-nationalist appeals: That is precisely why the leadership makes them. Resentment of the U.S., and a determination to enforce Chinese hegemony in Asia, are well-nigh universal among modern mainland Chinese. These emotions trump any desire for constitutional government, however much people dislike the current regime for its corruption and incompetence. Find a mainlander, preferably one under the age of thirty, and ask him which of the following he would prefer: for the Communists to stay in power indefinitely, unreformed, but in full control of the "three T's" (Tibet, Turkestan, Taiwan); or a democratic, constitutional government without the three T's. His answer will depress you. You can even try this unhappy little experiment with dissidents: same answer.

Is there anything we can do about all this? One thing only. We must understand clearly that there will be lasting peace in East Asia when, and only when, China abandons her atavistic fantasies of imperial hegemony, withdraws her armies from the two million square miles of other people's territory they currently occupy, and gets herself a democratic government under a rule of law. Until that day comes, if it ever does, the danger of war will be a constant in relations between China and the world beyond the Wall, as recent events in the South China Sea have illustrated. Free nations, under the indispensable leadership of the United States, must in the meantime struggle to maintain peace, using the one, single, and only method that wretched humanity, in all its millennia of experience, has so far been able to devise for that purpose: Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

3 posted on 07/12/2012 3:02:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Venturer

Completely agree with you Vent. Hilbird is a POS.

I think the US best stay in its own hood. China isn’t Libya . They gots lots-o-fighters and own the East China Sea. US top brass needs to retire and bring in some capable Junior ranking leaders.


4 posted on 07/12/2012 4:44:24 AM PDT by Pit1 (O-bi-boy is FOS. ABO IN NOVEMBER.)
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To: stylecouncilor

East Sea ping....


5 posted on 07/12/2012 5:34:47 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yeah, but Hillary got them to do a Pinky-Swear, so that means it’s OK.


6 posted on 07/12/2012 6:35:38 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Pit1
US top brass needs to retire and bring in some capable Junior ranking leaders.

OK on the new leaders! Of course, they must be diverse and include the US Navvy's lesbo ship-wrecker brass, the Army's Affirmative Action nincompoops, some Asians, Politically Correct Hispanics,not too "white",please, and the obligatory GLBTG (or however TF you acronymize that hosshiite). I wait with bated breath for the USN to assign a gay married couple to the same ship.

The CHICOM will soon be quaking in their boots ... with laughter.

7 posted on 07/13/2012 5:21:03 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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