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I was watching the press conference. I have to go to work now. Need to think through the implications regarding possible legitimation. This is additional proof that the record was amended/altered - because Verna Lee put a 9 on those items about Barack Obama Sr. and yet Onaka verified to Ken Bennett that they have “African” in their records now as the father’s race. So that is proof that the record is amended.

But if the only amendment made was a legitimation, the record would still be legally valid and the HDOH would be REQUIRED to verify as true the birth facts that Bennett requested to be verified - date of birth, gender, city of birth, island of birth, mother’s name, and father’s name. The only reason to refuse to verify those things - ANY of those things - is if the record is not legally valid.

And in fact if a legitimation had been done, Obama would not have been able to get a copy of a BC that still had the coding as a 9. They would have created a new birth certificate for him and the original one with the 9 coded on it would be sealed. I need to think that through and do some checking.

Like I said, I need to go to work and also need to process this in my mind, but it looks as if the original BC did not list a race for the father. I’m wondering if there is information listed for the father that was coded as having been reported. If there was, then it would indicate that there was a father listed on the BC originally.

Shoot. I need to go; my boys are breathing down my neck. Aagh.

If you have a ping list please put me on.We missed you.

There is no “create a new record/certificate “ in Hawaii except by fraud, etc. If there is an error in the original it is corrected by lining thru the original incorrect info, one line, initialing it, and refiling it as-is. Adoptions are a good example. The new name is anotated, authority noted, and the change initialed. The original document is “forever”. I have examples of these circumstances in my own family files having lived there many years and having one son born there.

It’s because I have exact examples of the way the Hawaiians keep records from the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, and early Oughts that I know what they’re supposed to look like and Obamuzzie’s ain’t quite “it “. They lost me with use of the race “African”. The copy of the COLB should have been a photostat——but I digress. His docs are phony for a whole row of reasons.

And in fact if a legitimation had been done, Obama would not have been able to get a copy of a BC that still had the coding as a 9. They would have created a new birth certificate for him and the original one with the 9 coded on it would be sealed. I need to think that through and do some checking.

IMHO the forged b.c. is cobbled together from a variety of sources. Who knows what or whose original document they used that had a "9" for race.