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Colo. Family Tries to Regain Home From Occupiers (Major frothing mouth in anger warning!)
Yahoo news ^ | July 16, 2012 | SUSANNA KIM

Posted on 07/17/2012 9:52:52 AM PDT by nerdwithagun

Dayna Donovan was in for a surprise when she learned two strangers had been living in her Littleton, Colo., home for eight months. They still haven't moved out despite a judge's ruling they had to be out by the weekend.

On Thursday, a judge in Arapahoe County ruled that Veronica Fernandez-Beleta and Jose Rafael Leyva-Caraveo, the two people who were living in the home, had to move out by Saturday morning. But as of Monday evening, Donovan, 43, said the two were still there.

(Excerpt) Read more at gma.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: squatters
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The squatters "bought it" from a fony salesman for $5K so it has to be treated as a civil issue and not a criminal trespass issue. They sound like they are illegal aliens and they have some kind of "Christian" legal foundation with a lawyer while the real owners can't afford a lawyer. I think the legal foundations are just another tool to help illegals no matter what. I am so mad after reading this I could spit!
1 posted on 07/17/2012 9:52:57 AM PDT by nerdwithagun
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To: nerdwithagun

S. S. S.


2 posted on 07/17/2012 9:54:57 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

In the good old days, this type of problem would have been readily, conclusively, and inexpensively solved by good neighbors with baseball equipment; and no one, including the police, would see anything.


3 posted on 07/17/2012 10:00:53 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: nerdwithagun

I think this is called ‘theft’. Or if nothing else, ‘criminal trespass’...In any case, don’t YOU try it!


4 posted on 07/17/2012 10:03:14 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: nerdwithagun

Can’t you shoot home invaders?


5 posted on 07/17/2012 10:06:17 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: nerdwithagun

No mention of going after the phony who sold the property, which is a criminal matter.
That says to me: Get ready for a lot more of these cases.


6 posted on 07/17/2012 10:06:41 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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” They are also dealing with their mortgage company, because they are about $20,000 behind on their house payments, the last of which was made in June 2011.”

What’s the big deal as at this point in time the house will be foreclosed.

Pay up the 20k you owe the bank and maybe someone will give a damn about your plight.


7 posted on 07/17/2012 10:06:51 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Dead Corpse

Oh yeah, great plan. You can do the same to the next occupiers when you get out of prison.


8 posted on 07/17/2012 10:08:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nerdwithagun

Does anybody know...is a Title Committment, and Title Insurance required, to purchase real estate in Colorado?

I just don’t buy the ‘phony salesman’ part of this.

What about the deed chain of ownership? Does Colorado use the recording system for deeds?

This is just stupid.


9 posted on 07/17/2012 10:09:01 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: nerdwithagun

This is why it needs to be legal to shoot somoene for criminal trespass.


10 posted on 07/17/2012 10:09:17 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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I file this under Home Invasion. My solution for home invasion would be a couple bursts of 5.56 followed by some .44 magnum if they are still moving.


11 posted on 07/17/2012 10:09:22 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: nerdwithagun

And if a “Christian” law firm is aiding the criminals, then that firm is not “Christian”


12 posted on 07/17/2012 10:10:13 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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There’s a little problem that’s downplayed in the article. The “owners” are $20,000 behind in mortgage payments on the house and left the state when they were 2 payments behind. I’d be very interested in learning the legal ramifications of that and how it plays in in regard to the “squatters.” Any real estate attorneys around here?


13 posted on 07/17/2012 10:10:23 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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I’m with you lacrew.

Doesn’t transfer of real property require the signature and presence of either an attorney or title company in every state - all 57 of them.

These bonehead occupiers are lying. Send in the dogs. Shut off the power. etc.


14 posted on 07/17/2012 10:17:22 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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“I file this under Home Invasion. My solution for home invasion would be a couple bursts of 5.56 followed by some .44 magnum if they are still moving.”

Under your theory, the banker who the Donovan family owes $20,000.00 can go and shoot the Donvans and their children and take back the bank’s property.


15 posted on 07/17/2012 10:17:53 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: lacrew
oh adverse possession is claimed - after 8 months. LOL not a chance.

a realtor defrauded the squatters - or so they'll claim.

my bet is there was no realtor and was no 5k.

"People who are even on an extended vacation need to be aware of this situation because once someone illegally occupies your home, you can't just have the cops arrest them," because they need to be caught in the act of breaking in and entering, Donovan said.

I'll tell you one thing - if i come home some day and someone is in my house i will shoot them pretty quickly.

16 posted on 07/17/2012 10:22:27 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Under your theory, the banker who the Donovan family owes $20,000.00 can go and shoot the Donvans and their children and take back the bank’s property.

After foreclosure, that's EXACTLY what would happen. The people with the guns would be wearing Sheriff's uniforms.

17 posted on 07/17/2012 10:24:12 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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The “owners” are $20,000 behind in mortgage payments on the house and left the state when they were 2 payments behind.

Do you think the new owners are paying the mortgage? I'd be surprised if they're paying property taxes.

18 posted on 07/17/2012 10:24:45 AM PDT by AmericaUnite (Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. John Ch 8)
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Under your theory, the banker who the Donovan family owes $20,000.00 can go and shoot the Donvans and their children and take back the bank’s property.

That's just wrong. The house had not been forclosed on. Not until then would the owners be trespassing - in spite of their debt.

19 posted on 07/17/2012 10:25:26 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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...because they need to be caught in the act of breaking in and entering, Donovan said.

Well, let's see. Are they INSIDE the dwelling?

20 posted on 07/17/2012 10:25:29 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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