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NCAA source: "Unprecedented" penalties against Penn State
CBS ^ | 7.22.2012 | CBS

Posted on 07/22/2012 11:19:02 AM PDT by Morgana

(CBS News) CBS News has learned that the NCAA will announce what a high-ranking association source called "unprecedented" penalties against both the Penn State University football team and the school.

"I've never seen anything like it," the source told correspondent Armen Keteyian.

NCAA President Mark Emmert will make the announcement Monday morning at 9 a.m. at the organization's headquarters in Indianapolis.

The penalties come in the wake of the independent report by former FBI Director Louis Freeh that chronicled repeated efforts by four top Penn State officials, including former football coach Joe Paterno, to conceal allegations of serial child sex abuse by Jerry Sandusky over a 14-year period.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: joepa; ncaa; pennstate; sandusky
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To: ex-snook
I seem to remember Penn state's president declaring his goal was to make Happy Valley the most gay friendly campus in the nation

It seems he didn't have much work to do

I wonder if that is in part why this was allowed to go on and on?

“the most gay friendly campus in the nation”

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41 posted on 07/22/2012 1:00:18 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

As SMU has shown, sometimes a sports death penalty induces a major boost tou your academic prowess.

Penn State has recieved a massive cash influx from the alumni this year (about five times what a year of football produces) so there is every chance that this can be a positive for the school in the long run.

Justice needs to be done, even if doing so threatened the existance of the university. Outside of hysterical hyperbole, it does not.


42 posted on 07/22/2012 1:06:38 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Sloth

The worst: Lack of institutional control. It shows that the administration has let the football program hold too much sway. It’s the one “sin” every school tries to avoid being charged with because if they can’t control their own program then the ncaa says “too bad, you can’t play in our sandbox... come back when you decide how to play by the rules”. Indiana University was bending over backwards a few years back when, after stupidly hiring a basketball coach, Kelvin Sampson, who already had been charged with crimes against the ncaa while at Oklahoma, was caught making illegal three-person phone calls to recruits. IU, on their own, gave up scholarships and restricted their ability to recruit. They did this ahead of ncaa sanctions to try to show some level of “we’re sorry”. They still kicked our butts but it could have been worse if we hadn’t shown remorse. The funny thing is that the same “sin” IU was punished for then is now legal with the ncaa. Pennstate has shown their “remorse” by only now deciding to take down the statue of JoeFlaw, the day before the sanctions. I think it’s going to be a lot too little way too late.


43 posted on 07/22/2012 1:11:37 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( if you love, you will not condemn, and if you condemn, you cannot love)
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To: Morgana

Students can transfer schools and their scholaships with them.

Not true.

If they transfer, it is a one year waiting period. One of the things the NCAA must address if they sanction the team.


44 posted on 07/22/2012 1:58:47 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: MrEdd

“Penn State has recieved a massive cash influx from the alumni this year”

How much of a massive cash influx, in the form of Federal government student loans? ...along with all the other “free tolerance” anything goes “institutions”?


45 posted on 07/22/2012 2:02:25 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Jonty30

“So we shouldn’t punish criminals, because we’d also punish the people who love them?”

Let me understand this, according to this logic you are good with banning all guns in the country because of one guy in Colorado too?


46 posted on 07/22/2012 2:08:09 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: flintsilver7

The people who will be punished by the NCAA for a situation that did not involve any actual athletics programs are a) the residents of State College, b) students and student-athletes who were mostly in middle school when this happened, c) small business owners in State College, and d) Penn State alumni, all of which had nothing to do with the actual crime...

...if that’s your main point, then simply replace the place name State College with any other place name where a college program has been sanctioned and, well, I think you’ve pretty well described the effects of said sanctions on that place...

...I’m sure you know this...just curious why you apparently think anything should be different for PSU and State College...


47 posted on 07/22/2012 2:09:44 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Morgana

NOTICE TO BOY SCOUTS:

This is why you were SO RIGHT to ban homosexual scout leaders. This is what happens when you admit the rump riders.


48 posted on 07/22/2012 2:19:44 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Neoliberalnot

Most people associated with the athletics department, including many athletes, knew about Sandusky and chose to do nothing.

To not cleanse the department of every one of them is to be supportive of those who harm children.


49 posted on 07/22/2012 2:28:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: edcoil

I don’t know how you define logic, as this isn’t an example of logic.

Some random guy in Florida, who owns a gun, likely doesn’t know anything about James Holmes.

However, most people, in the athletics department or on the board at Penn State, knew all about Sandusky, and chose to look the other way. Nothing less than a complete cleansing of the department is in order.

But I know how precious football is to you. You’d rather keep the people who supported Sandusky employed.


50 posted on 07/22/2012 2:32:10 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Morgana

“It should be burned down. And the ground sewn with salt.” — Luke, “The Haunting”


51 posted on 07/22/2012 2:35:08 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: dfwgator
"Which SEC school has a deal with NBC to show all of their home games, like Notre Dame does?"

Ummm, seems I should have put a /s tag on the end of my post, but I thought it was not needed.

My point was that the three schools I mentioned get far more national TV time than any southern team, which is valued by wannabees.

52 posted on 07/22/2012 2:41:10 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: MuttTheHoople

I hear they’re slashing their $100 Booster Handshakes to $50.

...actually, if what I’m hearing is true about the coming sanctions, PSU might have made out better than if palm crossing had been their greatest sin...looks like a loss of scholarships (USC knows all about this)and loss of multiple bowl games (multiple could mean as few as two, again, see USC)...

...and, at USC, all that happened, and no kids had to be fondled or groped to make it happen...
...so much for those posters who were crying in their beer for the ‘innocents’ at PSU getting ‘punished’ unfairly...


53 posted on 07/22/2012 2:41:33 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Jonty30

No, I want to punish the guilty and protect the innocent you seem to what to punish everyone involved or not.


54 posted on 07/22/2012 3:07:31 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: Elle Bee
"I seem to remember Penn state's president declaring his goal was to make Happy Valley the most gay friendly campus in the nation "

That's a good lead that should get followup. It has to be more than football for if Sandusky had been turned in when it first happened, Penn State football and Penn State would have received many accolades.

55 posted on 07/22/2012 3:36:31 PM PDT by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: Varsity Flight

How about 209 million in donations from alumni alone?

http://justicewomen.com/news/penn-state-fundraising-earns-second-highest-amount-school-history

The strawman that the university might fold if it loses 50 million that the football program brings in is an outright lie designed to plea for what happened to a bunch of kids result in justice.

JoPa, Schultz, Spanier, and Curley were not the only people willing to do or say anything to keep the football in play. There are many steadily trying to navigate the public towards that course.


56 posted on 07/22/2012 4:03:56 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Varsity Flight

How about 209 million in donations from alumni alone?

http://justicewomen.com/news/penn-state-fundraising-earns-second-highest-amount-school-history

The strawman that the university might fold if it loses 50 million that the football program brings in is an outright lie designed to plea for what happened to a bunch of kids result in justice.

JoPa, Schultz, Spanier, and Curley were not the only people willing to do or say anything to keep the football in play. There are many steadily trying to navigate the public towards that course.


57 posted on 07/22/2012 4:04:28 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: edcoil

No.

Anybody who can prove that they knew nothing can stay. However, according to many Freepers, there was no way that anybody, including the janitor who cleaned up the blood and shiat, could not have known.

However, according to you, football is so important in life that you would gladly sacrifice child after child, just so a football game can be played.

I would rather sacrifice football than children, but apparently you feel differently.

Let Penn State stand as an example of what happens when one sacrifices kiddies so people can play football.

But you’re welcome to tell me that football is more important than the well-being. Go ahead, let me hear those sweet words, yo.


58 posted on 07/22/2012 4:06:49 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: edcoil

No.

Anybody who can prove that they knew nothing can stay. However, according to many Freepers, there was no way that anybody, including the janitor who cleaned up the blood and shiat, could not have known.

However, according to you, football is so important in life that you would gladly sacrifice child after child, just so a football game can be played.

I would rather sacrifice football than children, but apparently you feel differently.

Let Penn State stand as an example of what happens when one sacrifices kiddies so people can play football.

But you’re welcome to tell me that football is more important than the well-being. Go ahead, let me hear those sweet words, yo.


59 posted on 07/22/2012 4:07:19 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Morgana

So, if you no longer have a football team, what does that mean for Title IX sports? No scholarships for the 80 women on the rowing team? Just to make it even.


60 posted on 07/22/2012 4:17:09 PM PDT by mom.mom
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