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Virginia’s Goode could be Romney’s undoing
Human Events ^ | 7/23/2012 | John Gizzi

Posted on 07/24/2012 6:28:39 PM PDT by xzins

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To: KevinB

I thought you’d be as interested in this as I was:

http://www.venomdoc.com/LD50/ld50sc.html

and then go to the discussion page:

http://www.venomdoc.com/LD50/LD50men.html

As near as I can figure, the numbers in the chart represent the size of dose that is fatal with a lab mouse. Then they construct the chart.

I went to subcutaneous, because that seems to cover the majority of bites.

Good comment, Kevin...fun research. :>)


201 posted on 07/25/2012 10:47:48 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Colofornian

Coliform:

OK so it sounds like you want Obama to win, right?

The way things are going, unfortunately it looks like there are ONLY two choices: Obutthole or Mittens.

If you HAD to cast your vote today, which would you choose? Honest answer, please. Abstention is NOT an option.


202 posted on 07/25/2012 11:11:21 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: bert; P-Marlowe; ejonesie22; svcw
I have been there and found many friends who are unavai able elsewhere.

Yep, you will fit right in there.

They have several there who have bashed me so I have claimed my name there and informed JR of it. I do not post there.

However, I have made it clear in my posts on FR that those who denigrate FR and JR there and still continue to post on FR are hypocrites.

203 posted on 07/25/2012 11:21:16 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: KevinB
Here's another article on the subject:

But often escape is not possible, so most snakes hold their ground, ready to defend themselves. A difference between copperheads and the other species appears in the next phase, when they are approached. Most rattlesnakes vibrate their tails and most cottonmouths sit with mouth open when a human comes near. Even some non-venomous snakes vibrate their tails. These displays are merely warnings not to tread on them. They are not aggressive attack measures. The snakes just want us to leave them alone.

So far, the dozens of cottonmouths Dr. Gibbons stood beside have made threat displays but have not bitten the researcher's boot. The same has been true for canebrake rattlesnakes although too few have been tested to declare that they are as passive as cottonmouths.

The exciting news (at least for the researchers) is that the copperhead is different from the others. Most copperheads tested have struck out immediately when they felt threatened.

This behavior explains why more people receive legitimate snakebites from copperheads than from any other species of venomous snake in North America. Still to be investigated is another aspect of copperhead bites: many are not serious enough to require more than minor medical treatment. This may be so not only because the venom of a copperhead is significantly less potent than that of rattlesnakes or cottonmouths, but also because they seldom inject much venom.

The copperhead's initial threat display is to strike. It lashes out at an enemy as a warning. If the enemy is close enough, the fangs may penetrate the skin. However, because this is a threat display, not an attempt to kill, the snake injects little venom. A copperhead has no intention of wasting valuable venom if it can scare away the menace with a minor bite.


204 posted on 07/25/2012 11:26:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: itssme
If oboma wins in November, we will never again get the opportunity to vote for who will be president in this country...dictator commie oboma will see to it that his subjects never exercise their right to vote. If we vote for Romney now, we wil be BUYING TIME

A question for the Mayor of Realville:

If Obama could really end elections and rule as an unelected dictator, why would he choose to wait until after this November?

205 posted on 07/25/2012 12:07:02 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

If I voted for either romney or obama, i’d face my Lord, my Judge one day who could ask me: “If you sought the protection of those I created in their home the womb, why did you vote for a man who promoted the womb’s invasion?” In mitt’s case, my Lord could also ask me — were I to vote for him — “Since you knew Romney to be one who lusted for power as My rival ‘wannabe god,’ why would you elevate a human idol via your vote?”


206 posted on 07/25/2012 12:47:01 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: xzins

Very interesting. Thank you for posting that research. After I made my post, I began to research as well to make sure I was right, but quickly got distracted by something else. I have just always heard that copperheads are less dangerous. Perhaps it’s just that they inject less venom. It’s interesting that the venom chart and the article you posted contradict one another. The chart shows the copperhead as having more potent venom than the rattler while the article says the opposite. Anyway, I’m not happy about our choices either, but I will do whatever is necessary to end the national nightmare that is Barack Obama.


207 posted on 07/25/2012 2:15:06 PM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: KevinB

Most of the charts I looked at had the copperhead venom with less lethality than most rattlesnakes.

Some rattlesnakes, though, were pretty high: the green mojave rattlesnake and the eastern diamondback were far higher than the copperhead.

The danger of the copperhead, as opposed to a rattlesnake or a moccasin, is that those two give a warning, a rattle or a white-mouth display, but the copperhead’s warning is an initial strike that’s supposed to use less venom than any subsequent strikes.


208 posted on 07/25/2012 2:24:50 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Tau Food
Speaking for myself (Realville is another word for dealing in the reality of here and now), oboma is not sure he will win in November. He would prefer to win in November and make it a bloodless coup, and dictate as he wishes from then on..there will be no stopping him and what he dictates must be done. And so he presents himself to prospective voters as he wishes to be perceived. But this country is on to oboma, and they know who and what he is.

If oboma wins in November, he will come down hard on We the People, and he will become dictator for life..we will not longer have choices...up to now, how many freedoms have been taken from us by oboma, how many of his dictates have been shoved down our throats? Look to other communist countries like Korea, China, Cuba...what freedoms do they have..what is the quality of the life that they live? We both know the answer to those questions.

oboma is capable of anything..he follows the Saul Alinsky rules of the road for commies. You never trust a communist/socialist/marxist/revolutionary/sharia law loving thug...you vote them out while you still the the chance. Or the alternative will be deadly for the Constitution, our liberty and freedom, our very lives.

209 posted on 07/25/2012 2:28:31 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Justice4awe

Too bad the stoopid Republicans tried to ram “read my lips” Bush down our throats then. Now it’s Willard. Another loser. When will they learn????


210 posted on 07/25/2012 2:33:55 PM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel (And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

So why are there only two choices? Does your state limit who the voter can choose to two? (Not voting is a choice, by the way.)


211 posted on 07/25/2012 2:38:49 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: bert
Friends?
Are you friends with the bunch who compared Christianity to storm front?
Or may be you are friends with the group that calls Christianity a fraud?
Or may be the group that calls people on FR bigots, racists, haters, (whatever the new word of the week is)?
Just wondering why anyone of reason would go beyond just signing up to protect their name. It is a curiosity.
212 posted on 07/25/2012 2:45:36 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Colofornian

-—”If I voted for either romney or obama, i’d face my Lord, my Judge one day who could ask me: “If you sought the protection of those I created in their home the womb, why did you vote for a man who promoted the womb’s invasion?” “
___________________________________

Fair enough, I see your point and thank you for answering in a civil manner.

So I guess your answer is Abstention, which I said is not an option because hard choices must be made.

In reality, either way you look at it there are two choices - Obama vs. Mittens and:

—One candidate is fully pro-abortion and,
—One candidate says he’s pro-life but was pro-abortion in the past.

You are currently assuming Romney is lying about his alleged “pro-life position” — purely based on his historical record 15-20 years ago.

Do you see that Obama as Marxist-in-chief is far less business-friendly than his opponent and that his marxist cronies could destroy our economy.

As you know, a vote for Obama could result in Armageddon for the world as we know it in the next 4 years with collapse of societies, violence, rape, pestilence.

A Romney vote might mean pro-choice, pro-gay politics (we don’t know this for sure, but it’s indeed possible), but at least has a chance of rescuing capitalism and liberty in the world and perhaps could avoid the coming Obamageddon.

Given the foregoing, do you REALLY think the Creator would make a shallow judgment of you for voting for a closet pro-choice candidate if that vote makes the difference between saving the world for humanity??

I believe, that, my friend, is the true argument. There are just too many other things at stake for our world and our society to allow the ruthless Obama Regime to destroy America for 4 more years.

Do you really believe God doesn’t recognize that fact, too?

Or do you just think you would be punished for voting for a LIKELY (not certain, but likely) pro-gay, pro-abortion candidate, irrespective of the fact that that vote could save our economy and our freedom in other regards?

I guess I view God as having a better worldview than that.

Speaking of which, think of the wide difference between Romney and Obeyme on Islamofascism! Obama’s coziness with Islamofascists alone, might bring about the world’s downfall before his Marxist plans do! Romney is clearly not flip-flopping on his dislike for Islamofascism.


213 posted on 07/25/2012 2:54:48 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: itssme

I get it. You don’t get it. Some of us have principles and refuse to vote for abortion supporting, gun grabbing socialists. Romney will destroy conservatism and push to the GOP further to the left. That is more dangerous for this country than anything Zero can accomplish while held in check by a GOP congress.

Vote for him...I don’t care. I’m not and neither will most of the conservatives in Ohio.


214 posted on 07/25/2012 3:16:51 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
Romney is now a supporter of abortion. His health bill in MA provides free to low abortions.
He only started calling himself pro-life in January 2012.
His words “I prefer to be called pro-life”.
Sorry, he could call himself a toaster and it wouldn't make it so.
There are more than two choices. I am sorry you live in a state that is so limiting in its choices.
215 posted on 07/25/2012 3:46:00 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: itssme

No, it seems to me that if Obama could and would become a dictator and rule without elections, he wouldn’t have any reason to take a chance on this election. And, it really sounds like the Realville you’re living in will be full of terror for you no matter what happens in this election.

God can relieve you of the crippling fears that unnecessarily plague you. You need only ask for strength and clarity.

Good luck.


216 posted on 07/25/2012 4:48:06 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: D-fendr
Mitt’s lost two running as a Republican.

Because he's not a Republican. He's a faggot. He belongs in the dem party.

217 posted on 07/25/2012 5:08:07 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Ah, classy reparté. How can I compete?

Your momma...


218 posted on 07/25/2012 5:34:27 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Ah, classy reparté. How can I compete?

You can't. If you could, you'd be out canvassing neighborhoods and getting the word out for Virgil Goode, but instead you've surrendered all frenchfrog-like and now all you have to look forward to is selling your soul to the daisy-chained-duo, ying and ying, mitt and obie.

219 posted on 07/25/2012 5:45:36 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: Sirius Lee

No, I think “you momma...” is pretty close competitively to “he’s a faggot.”

As for campaigning for Virgil, I believe the primary mission in this election is to remove the Obama regime from power. And, helping Virgil is contrary to this mission.

We disagree. But I don’t cede any high ground - on morals or principles - to those whose actions to the extent they are successful result in Obama’s re-election.

I wouldn’t be as silly as to say you’ve sold your soul, but I wouldn’t grant any religious benefit to it either.


220 posted on 07/25/2012 5:56:47 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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