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Moore: 'Doesn't Trayvon Martin Have the Right to Kill Zimmerman If Zimmerman Is Stalking Him?'
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Posted on 07/25/2012 8:17:38 AM PDT by chessplayer

"Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?"

This question was actually asked Tuesday on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight by schlockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore during a discussion about gun laws in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colorado (video follows with transcript and commentary):

MICHAEL MOORE: Can I say something about that? About the Trayvon Martin thing? Let me put it this way. Let's say George Zimmerman’s right when he says Trayvon Martin tried to kill him. Alright. But it was George Zimmerman who was told by the police to quit stalking this boy. And he was the one who was committing the infraction against the law by disobeying the police and going after Trayvon Martin. Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?


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To: Marie
He was watching him from a distance, from what I see from the evidence.

All the evidence indicates that Martin had created a distance of separation between them, but then came back to Zimmerman to confront him.

Exactly what happened at that point may not be entirely provable one way or another, but I think it seems pretty likely that at some point Martin had the easy opportunity to get back to his home, but chose not to.

41 posted on 07/25/2012 9:06:50 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: chessplayer
Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?

He is confusing the condition of being physically attacked with an acute need for self defense with the condition of being stalked with no acute need for self defense.

42 posted on 07/25/2012 9:07:06 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Marie
Actually, that was my first question. If I were walking down the street at night and a man was stalking me, I’d feel within my rights to defend myself.

Ok. So Martin took you up on your advice and decided to defend himself against someone following him.

His attack on Zimmerman then allowed Zimmerman to defend himself.

Martin lost.

43 posted on 07/25/2012 9:08:55 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: chessplayer
This sort of thinking goes right to the root of liberal racism. White liberals like Michael Moore simply do not expect black people to behave in as civilized a manner as they expect white people to behave. They actually believe it is racist to expect and demand a level of commonality of moral norms among people regardless of their skin color.

Imagine how Michael Moore would label you if you stated that a white 17 year old football player from Iowa should be allowed to beat to death a black father who he thinks may be following him.

44 posted on 07/25/2012 9:12:02 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

It’s socialist frauds like this PATHETIC HAMBURGER MUNCHER that jumped to the wrong conclusion from the getgo to try and score political points for the left by making this into a race thing when race was not what it was about. As the evidence comes out, the PATHETIC LEFT once again shows what a bunch of miserable lying scumbags they are, as always.


45 posted on 07/25/2012 9:15:31 AM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: Marie
And the cops did tell Z. to back off.

No they didn't.

46 posted on 07/25/2012 9:16:45 AM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. DonÂ’t choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: Marie
That is a tricky one, You would have to be able to prove that you were being stalked, could the person following just happen to be following the same route? Another reason to have a handgun at the ready, but concelled so as not to be charged with brandishing, if the threat is not really a threat, and a dead threat if it is.

But does Trayvon Martin have the right to attack George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is/was following him and the police have told him not to follow him so George is returning to his truck? This is the main reason I have heard as to why George is gulity, once you follow someone on the street you have the right (by street law) to attack and kill them.

47 posted on 07/25/2012 9:23:40 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: chessplayer

Stay far away from both Michael Moore’s mouth as well as his hindquarters. Both expel some of the most foul and smelly corruption in America.


48 posted on 07/25/2012 9:30:01 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: chessplayer

If Trayvon has the right to kill Zimmerman, why doesn’t Zimmerman have the right to defend himself, to include killing Trayvon?


49 posted on 07/25/2012 9:34:25 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: chessplayer
Remember... moore is wholly owned by satan and as satan’s property... he will burn in hell for eternity.

LLS

50 posted on 07/25/2012 9:35:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: chessplayer

I watched about 30 seconds of the Morgan-Moore gun-control lovefest just to torture myself. If stupidity was electricity, these guys could replace Hoover dam.


51 posted on 07/25/2012 9:43:50 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Marie

Zimmerman did back off. Here’s a very good synopsis of what likely happened that night:

http://suppressednews.com/cgi-bin/news/viewnews.cgi?id=EFFAplupVlaMSXXfZP&tmpl=offsitenews


52 posted on 07/25/2012 10:45:30 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: chessplayer

More verbal diarrhea from Michael Mooron.

If I feel Mooron is stalking me then I have the right to shoot him?

Mike shows his ignorance of the circumstances of the case. But, he’s NEVER let facts get in the way of his ignorance before so why start now.


53 posted on 07/25/2012 10:50:40 AM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

yeah, if “stalking,” or following someone at a distance in a public place, warrants the use of deadly force, I’d think having one’s head bashed into sidewalk is an even more compelling justification.


54 posted on 07/25/2012 10:52:25 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Svartalfiar

Thank you!


55 posted on 07/25/2012 11:22:01 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: chessplayer

I think I have the right to kill Moore because he is a tub of lard, lying, POS that doesn’t have the right to breath in my book; besides he bothers me.


56 posted on 07/25/2012 2:42:07 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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