[Norm Lenhart]

After Bush 1 the Dems Ran Bill Clinton.
Then Al Gore
Then John Kerry
Then Barack Obama

Each more left and marxist than the one before

The GOP countered with Bob Dole
Then GWB
Then John McCain
Now Mitt Romney.

Likewise, each more liberal than the one before.

The trend unarguably shows both parties going further to the left with each passing election. The trend of GOP is putting up more libs is reinforced by the base voting for what they give us under threat of the crazy man the Dems run that year.

Now please explain in great detail when the miracle will happen. Please show us factually based evidence that the GOP can be saved when the trend is not your friend.

And most importantly, explain after all this time, with the FACTS above, why you ‘feel’ that ‘next time’ will abe one iota different.

The trend shows the GOP will running an open marxist in 2016. So why should I vote for a man with less conservative legislation to his record than Bill Clinton and expect ‘good things’ to happen?

[Pontiac]

Sorry I can’t give you details of a battle plan that does not exist in other than generalities. And as the saying goes no battle plan survives its first contact with the enemy. For my plan what there is of it see post # 50.

I would also note that one could argue that McCain is more conservative than both Bush’s. Neither Bush had a congressional record to compare to McCain so in reality a fair comparison is not possible.