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To: Jeff Chandler
So, OK, um, you say more? Less?

Look at these figures (realities) and assumptions: 2% of the US population currently is in prison. A certain percentage of that is Aryan Brotherhood member or affiliated(I dont know, what, of that population then 20, 30%...then add in those not members of that group or Christian Identity Church not behind bars), and all the other freaking whackos out there, and I am sure you can at least get to 1% maybe 2%. That's how I got to the figures. Which country are YOU referring to then?

84 posted on 08/05/2012 11:01:16 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Donate, & walk precincts, not for "Parties", but for individual, principled "Candidates" (& for FR)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Anything more than 0.01% of the U.S. population is a Hollywood fantasy.


88 posted on 08/05/2012 11:21:14 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I dunno. I’d need real numbers. My anecdotal experience over nearly six decades of living in America includes exactly 1 (one) encounter with a true white supremacist, and he was not even theologically Christian, actually buying into the whole Norse pantheon. We spoke of Loki. I bet he would’ve loved the Thor movie. It happened in Virginia, when I was first arriving there for law school, at the car rental place. Freaked me out a little, “Is this what Virginia is going to be like?” But never ever again after that.

Now I’ve met literally thousands and thousands of people over my lifetime, so I just don’t see even 1%, let alone 2%. I believe most people in the prison system are nominally Christian, so that’s a poor place to start. Furthermore, just like Islam, the number of people in a group that might be willing to act out their professed beliefs with aggressive violence is a bare fraction of the total number in that group.

So I conclude with others here that, absent better statistics, any identification as a white supremacist will be used to intentionally exaggerate the risk from white Christian populations for the sole purpose of enhancing the gun control argument.


96 posted on 08/06/2012 5:46:18 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Your analysis is wrong. There are about 20,000 members of Aryan Brotherhood (Source) and they make up about 1% of federal prisoners. The other radical groups of a similar sort have smaller memberships, and they often overlap.

They are vastly outnumbered by violent street gangs of other sorts.

The overwhelming majority of violence attributed to all of these groups comes from their criminal activity, not their political beliefs.

97 posted on 08/06/2012 6:03:07 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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