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Ann Romney’s horse won’t win an Olympic medal
yahoo ^ | 8/7/12 | Holly Bailey

Posted on 08/07/2012 9:57:11 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton

Ann Romney's horse Rafalca won't win a medal in the dressage competition at London's Olympic Games. But Romney, the wife of GOP candidate Mitt Romney, still praised her horse's "fabulous" performance.

"It was wonderful," Romney told the Associated Press' Nicole Winfield after watching her horse compete Tuesday in London. "She was elegant and consistent again. We just love her."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012olympics; annromney; dressage; olympics; rafalca
Something does not smell right here with the Romney horse not advancing to the medal rounds of the Olympics. It could be that the international judges are out to get the Romney's or the horse had been tampered with by Obama agents.

It is just sad that Ann and her horse as Olympic athletes would have worked so hard to represent the USA just to be sabotaged for political gain.

1 posted on 08/07/2012 9:57:14 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

I can’t help myself. There’s gotta be a “... and the horse you rode in on” joke here somewhere.


2 posted on 08/07/2012 9:59:10 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Uncle Slayton

Obama’s dog won’t win a medal either .... not since Obama ate him.


3 posted on 08/07/2012 10:03:37 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“I can’t help myself. There’s gotta be a “... and the horse you rode in on” joke here somewhere.”

Move on. Put it behind you...


4 posted on 08/07/2012 10:04:08 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Ann Romney was NOT competing on the horse. Anoth rider was, who has much more experience.


5 posted on 08/07/2012 10:04:32 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Uncle Slayton

Does everything have to be a political conspiracy?

Could it be that other horses performed a little better than Rafalca?


6 posted on 08/07/2012 10:05:20 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Something does not smell right here with the Romney horse not advancing to the medal rounds of the Olympics. It could be that the international judges are out to get the Romney's or the horse had been tampered with by Obama agents.

Horses have bad days too. Several horses/riders who were favored to win the jumping events did really crappy (knocked over the rails)and didn't even place.

Horses tampered with by Obama agents......facepalm.jpg.

7 posted on 08/07/2012 10:05:39 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: ridesthemiles

As owner of the horse, she does compete as does the horse and the rider in the American pastime of Dressage.


8 posted on 08/07/2012 10:08:11 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

They’ll just have to strap her to the top of the wagon and take her back to the ranch.


9 posted on 08/07/2012 10:08:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Probably won’t medal because of all the money in the horses saddlebags weighed it down.... /sarc


10 posted on 08/07/2012 10:09:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Uncle Slayton; shibumi; TheOldLady

Formal dressage is nice.

Freestyle dressage rocks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b8oxiIe76s


11 posted on 08/07/2012 10:09:50 AM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Hmmmmm - No co-inky dink that Michelle Obama's horse is ALSO SANS gold medal, because you know....

Oh yeah, almost forgot - RomneyCARE RomneyCARE RomneyCARE

12 posted on 08/07/2012 10:12:34 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: Uncle Slayton

No, the horse was not sabotaged for political purposes or unfairly judged. The gold-medal-winning Brits, including Charlotte DeJardin on Valegro, were superb. Truly breathtaking. They deserved the victory. Rafalca was good but not in that class. Her canter pirouettes are not wonderful and the passage and piaffe, eh. She is a good girl, a fine horse, just not quite of that caliber.

But to be quite fair, the US is a relative newcomer to dressage. They’ve been pursuing it in England and Europe for 500+ years, one way or another, and the depth of talent there is incredible. It’s BIG business there. Until forty years ago, however, very few Americans had even heard of it. We’ve come up to speed fast, partly through importing European horses and breeding them here, partly from bringing European trainers over. We aren’t quite there yet, though we get closer all the time.

Another consideration is that some of our top talent does not pursue dressage as a competitive sport but as an art form, so they’re out of the mix. And the European nations’ government support for horse-breeding has created an industry we can’t approach here.

Disclaimer: I hate the FEI and its hypocrisy. Politics is involved, but NOT in ways that prejudice the judges against American horses and riders. The judges here are doing pretty well; it’s the commentators on the rides who are, um, nuts.


13 posted on 08/07/2012 10:17:48 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Something does not smell right here with the Romney horse not advancing to the medal rounds of the Olympics. It could be that the international judges are out to get the Romney's or the horse had been tampered with by Obama agents. It is just sad that Ann and her horse as Olympic athletes would have worked so hard to represent the USA just to be sabotaged for political gain.

Are you serious? Give me a break. Being paranoid 24/7 is no way to go through life.

14 posted on 08/07/2012 10:20:19 AM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: Salamander

One of the most beautiful sports ever.


15 posted on 08/07/2012 10:30:49 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Oh yes another conspiracy theory. Maybe the horse just sucks like Romney the liberal.


16 posted on 08/07/2012 10:35:41 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: Salamander

Beautiful animal! I’d never heard of freestyle dressage before. Thanks for the link.


17 posted on 08/07/2012 10:35:59 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: hitchwolf
Would you for one moment put it past the Obama-Soros-Clinton Machine to not tamper with the Romney horse?


18 posted on 08/07/2012 10:41:11 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

This is just such a blessing. I have laid awake for the last three nights wondering how the Romney’s would be able to pay the taxes on the Gold Medal if they won it. Now I can relax.


19 posted on 08/07/2012 10:52:41 AM PDT by kempster
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To: Uncle Slayton

Everyone can’t win. Each competition stands on its own, and some performers just do better than others, on any particular day.

My daughter used to ride dressage. It’s fun to watch.


20 posted on 08/07/2012 10:59:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

21 posted on 08/07/2012 11:12:42 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Uncle Slayton

Yes, they tampered with Romney’s horse....

I actually feel bad for you if you legit believe that.


22 posted on 08/07/2012 11:18:09 AM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: ottbmare
"No, the horse was not sabotaged for political purposes or unfairly judged. The gold-medal-winning Brits, including Charlotte DeJardin on Valegro, were superb. Truly breathtaking. They deserved the victory. Rafalca was good but not in that class. Her canter pirouettes are not wonderful and the passage and piaffe, eh. She is a good girl, a fine horse, just not quite of that caliber."

A wonderful mare, yes. Except for Peters, the US simply did not show well. Jan tried to put a good face on it.

“I wish the scores would have been a little bit higher, but I’m really happy with the horse,” Ebeling said. “She went great. Didn’t really have mistakes.”

Rafalca is competitive here [US], not so competitive there [Olympics].

23 posted on 08/07/2012 11:19:12 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: TheOldLady; freekitty

It’s one of those things that’s so breath-taking and beautiful, I can barely stand to watch it...:)


24 posted on 08/07/2012 11:20:01 AM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: trailhkr1
Horses have bad days too.

I remember (years ago) when I had a sheltie and we were training for obedience work. I went to a "meet" to watch some other dogs work out and there was a German Shephard working out in one of the rings. This was a experienced obedience dog at the top of the ladder for awards (a UD, I think). Well, this dog just decided that, that day he wasn't going to do it. He was just lolly-gagging around the ring. He wouldn't go over the jump. When the woman got out of the ring with her dog, she had friends waiting and they were all laughing about this as this was very unusual behavior for this particular dog.

So, yeah, animals also will have days when they just don't want to work.

25 posted on 08/07/2012 11:26:00 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Uncle Slayton

Its them horse haters and their ilk...


26 posted on 08/07/2012 11:33:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Salamander

i agree


27 posted on 08/07/2012 2:07:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: napscoordinator
Maybe the horse just sucks like Romney the liberal.

The horse does not "suck." She is very good, very talented, and both well-trained and well-ridden. She scored over 70%. That is extraordinary, and a few years ago that score would have represented an untouchable triumph. The goalposts have moved, however, and there are a few horses in the entire world who are infinitesimally better than she is. As I said, the quality of her single-tempi changes is not a political issue, so we can leave her part-owner's husband and his personal history out of it.

28 posted on 08/07/2012 3:50:43 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Salamander
If you think Olympic dressage is beautiful, you should see it when it's done without the constraints of competition; when it's done for art, for the pure pursuit of beauty. The delicacy of communication between two species becomes almost like ESP. It has a spiritual component, but make no mistake: like ballet or martial arts, it takes strength as well as grace.

Dressage at Schloss Buckeburg

And then this, just to show the artistry and intense communication a young girl and her Iberian stallion can achieve alone, without bit or saddle:

Alizee

Sorry for the ads.

29 posted on 08/07/2012 4:07:49 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare

Is that a Lippizanner (sp?) horse I saw jumping up while extending front and back legs? What wonderful horses. Thanks for the links.


30 posted on 08/07/2012 6:26:02 PM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

I think almost all the horses at Buckeburg are Iberians, either Andalusians or Lusitanos. The ones that are truly white with pink muzzles and blue eyes are definitely Iberians. There is one gray horse that looks white, with a touch of gray in the tail and gray muzzle and dark eyes. He is shown doing a capriole. Could well be a Lipizzaner. I’m not sure because he only shows up for a second or two. You have a good eye.

These are all movements the horse does naturally, when he is joyful (or courting, or fighting, or just being a horse). They are not being forced; we ask, and they either offer or not.


31 posted on 08/07/2012 6:46:20 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare

That’s really cool but it appears to be more in line with Haute Ecole than dressage.

[dressage does not include any of the ‘airs above ground’ or levade, etc]


32 posted on 08/07/2012 7:53:21 PM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Salamander

I must respectfully disagree with you. True, competitive dressage, as seen in the Olympics, the WEG, etc., does not include the airs and movements of the high school. But competitive dressage is very far from being the pinnacle of dressage. The airs above the ground are certainly a part of academic dressage; they’re just for people and horses who aspire to a higher level than competition dressage. Ask the Spanish Riding School. Ask Philippe Karl, the Henriquets, Nuno Oliveira, JP Giacomini, or the other great dressage riders of the 20th and 21st centuries.


33 posted on 08/07/2012 8:32:45 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare

But that is exactly what I said.

Anything that includes the airs above the ground [sauts d’école] is considered Haute Ecole which is the ultimate expression of ‘classical dressage’ versus ‘competitive dressage’ and the schools of training that I was thinking of are those you just mentioned.

http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Fall08/Scheff/haute.html

Nice website with a few good videos.

I found this which conflicts with most of the ‘experts’ defending dressage on YouTube:

“Another sure sign of a tense horse is a tail that constantly swishes and pinned-back ears.”

That is true and I’m not sure why they keep saying it’s “normal” and that the horse is “happy” when its body language practically screams otherwise.


34 posted on 08/07/2012 11:23:52 PM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: ottbmare

Why the hell are people even quibbling over this?

The woman has the right to invest the time, effort and money into a dressage horse if she wants.

It’s nobody else’s business.

It’s also an insanely competitive sport and there are some great horse/rider combos out there and somebody’s inevitably going to lose, regardless of ‘who they are’ or aren’t.

This has to be one of the most asinine ‘arguments’ I’ve ever seen on FR.

More time goes into training a dressage horse than just about any other type.

The Spanish Riding Academy doesn’t even blink at a decade-long training period.

This is *not* a 4H Western Pleasure class.

Sheesh, people.


35 posted on 08/07/2012 11:31:18 PM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: ottbmare

This is just my opinion but I would have liked to see more animation and higher lift.

She is an honest horse who is not stressed, with ears forward and tail steady.

She’s not as ‘flashy’ as other horses.

But she is honest and technically sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucIpMo28Nqg

Then there’s this guy who lets it all hang out:

http://horsemanpro.com/articles2/classical-dressage.htm

And for giggles, look for “Mule Dressage”.


36 posted on 08/08/2012 12:06:12 AM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Salamander
This is just my opinion but I would have liked to see more animation and higher lift. She is an honest horse who is not stressed, with ears forward and tail steady. She’s not as ‘flashy’ as other horses.

Chacun á son goût. The thing is, horses like Toti have spoiled us, and now we expect to see high action and a lot of drama. Yes, her tail is so relaxed, her jaw is relaxed, she's wearing a bit of lipstick, her paces are pure, she is supple, flexible, balanced, forward, full of impulsion, a happy camper. Her pirouettes aren't very good, but see how easily she makes those single-tempi changes? She's a fine horse and a worthy member of the US team. Trouble is, the goalposts are moving. Two or three Games ago she would have won gold.

37 posted on 08/08/2012 4:05:51 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Uncle Slayton

38 posted on 08/08/2012 4:08:48 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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