Posted on 08/08/2012 5:37:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
emits fewer particles per mile than compliant cars due to its high mileage
“The mileage of old VW’s and Honda’s were great.”
Old Beetles got 29-30 mpg. At least both of the two (’59 & ‘63) that I owned got that.
IIRC, so did everyone else’s.
I remember after I bought my 2004 Chevrolet Cavalier it took about a week for the gauge from the full tank to the 3/4 tank level. Now it takes me three short trips and its down to the 3/4 tank level and after that is goes down even faster
For the “true-believers” in the EPA, NHTSA, and the environmental movement all that matters is that we stop using oil and coal. Period. Everything else comes second including, whether they admit it to themselves or not, other people’s lives.
It won’t be long before there is no “fleet average” allowed.
From wiki- coverage of medium duty trucks has been added to the CAFE regulations starting in 2012, and heavy duty commercial trucks starting in 2014.
So soon there won’t be any exceptions and ALL vehicles will be high mileage foil covered over priced ugly death traps.
Obama will just issue an Executive Order repealing the laws of physics.
I don’t disagree with your overall point about the overburden of regulations at all levels of gov’t. I was just looking to clarify some information about Ford.
As far as I know, Ford has 2 engine plants in Michigan. One is in Romeo and the other is in Dearborn. Here is information on Romeo:
http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=8382
Key information is: “In addition to the 4.6-liter 2-valve V8, the plant also produces the 4.6-liter 4-valve (DOHC) Intech V8 that powers the Ford Mustang Cobra and Lincoln Continental and the 5.4-liter 4-valve Intech V8, which is exclusive to the Lincoln Navigator and Blackwood.”
The Dearborn engine plant produces the Duratec engines.
All of that said, that Wiki info seems to be a bit outdated for Romeo...they still list the engine for the Continental!
I can see the gubmint making the big,evil insurance companies the fall guy. FEDGUV INC will make it so insurance companies can NOT insure these kit cars and they can’t LEGALLY go on public roads without insurance.
Exceptions will be made if you pay a special tax,etc and fill out 100 pages of forms and promise to never resell the car and only drive it designated areas.
(think 1968 and machine gun registration)
Many of them. I was buying a bunch of C4C parts from the wrecking yards and “Cash for Clunkers” was criminal stupidity.
I would have loved to see those who advocated the program stripped of the right to ever own a motor vehicle of any type and forfeit, without compensation, those they owned.
Yes the old VW’s got great mileage. The first one imported in ‘49 had a 30hp engine. When they were phased out in ‘79, it was up to 57hp.
My ‘74 got 33 mpg but there was not enough extra hp to have an air conditioner.
Do we want to go back to that level of performance?
I wish I had a brand new 1974 Burnt Orange VW like I had. It was fun to drive and great in snow.
That is old info as you noted. The Continental ceased production in ‘02. The 4.6 DOHC has been replaced by the 5.0 DOHC Coyote.
In this suburb just west of Detroit, Ford Motor Co. is working on one of the biggest gambles in its 108-year history: a pickup truck with a largely aluminum body. The radical redesign will help meet tougher federal fuel-economy targets now starting to have wide-ranging effects on Detroit's auto makers.The venerable F-150 becomes an unintended consequence to Obama's new standards.
Ford has a deal with PSA under which Ford provides larger diesel engines for the European truck market and Peugeot reciprocates by providing the light-duty automotive diesels for Ford.
And many of those destroyed cars were still in good condition
I heard about a smug liberal couple that turned in a perfectly good SUV for Cash for Clunkers in order to buy a subcompact death trap. Later, they saw their vehicle on the dealer’s lot with a mark up of nearly twice what they received.
The dealer gave them their “liberal-feel-good” cash out of his own pocket because he knew their SUV was a very popular model. They were angry because they had believed that evil SUV was destroyed but instead the dealer would make a lot of money off of it.
Just as an FYI, I was in a Ford PD building yesterday and was asking about the Ka. They manufacture that car at Valencia, Spain and at a plant in Poland. The person I was talking to, did not know where the engines for that program are produced....
Thank you for the clarification. I was a bit surprised that the old information was all that I could find. I would have thought that Ford would make sure that info was available and up to date...
They missed one other thing...the mileage tax. Better fuel economy means fewer tax dollars at the pump, which then leads to either bad roads or tracking devices for mileage tax purposes.
I had guessed that you had more than a typical interest in the topic...
Fyi - I had heard (unconfirmed) that volkswagen had a similar high efficiency car that was not available in the USA for the same reason - slightly high CO2 emission in a very high MPG engine.
I agree with your overall point that there is some derivitive of deisel technology available in Europe that is very good in fuel economy. Plus it is not the choice of the car manufacturers, it IS directly related to our government’s regulations!
I even have a friend that used to live in Windsor and he was able to get a Jetta that was not available in the US. He loved that car for many reasons, but he bragged most about the diesel engine’s mileage!
;-)
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