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1 posted on 08/08/2012 3:52:34 PM PDT by SJackson
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Once upon a time the government felt those few Jews of their tiny population who couldn't flee to Sweden or England might be more comfortable at Auschwitz and Birkenau. It's still a tiny population, probably time to leave, though not to Sweden or England.

2 posted on 08/08/2012 3:59:11 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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Well, on the one hand, she’s right that it is a disgusting mutilation. And on the other hand, way to drive the Muslims out of Norway. We can call this “the penis wars”.


3 posted on 08/08/2012 4:00:25 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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How will they enforce such a law?

The rituals are done not by doctors but by clergy.

If they make it a requirement for doctors to report circumcisions after the fact when they are discovered during routine medical visits the Muslims will simply only go to Muslim doctors who will ignore the law.

The only time the circumcisions will be discovered is when the child is seen in emergency situations.

4 posted on 08/08/2012 4:08:03 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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I am sure that ear piercings, tattoos, and abortions are not allowed as they are medically not required (/sarcasm)

Political correctness is just soooooo wrong

5 posted on 08/08/2012 4:09:01 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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Along the same lines, they could demand that the Jews replace genuine religious services with a symbolic, nonspiritual ritual. I doubt that any decent person would comply with a government demand that they violate their religious beliefs.


8 posted on 08/08/2012 4:14:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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Dr. Smegma of the Clean Naughty Bits Clinic (CNBC...oops!) disagrees with the Norway ombudsman regarding the desirability and positive health effects of circumcision.
10 posted on 08/08/2012 4:24:06 PM PDT by twister881
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“...was a violation of a person’s right to decide over his own body.”

If this is accepted as a legitimate reason then you can bet this reasoning will be used to put an end to age of consent laws. I would not be surprised to find that the gay lobby was heavily supportive of the movement to outlaw circumcision.


13 posted on 08/08/2012 4:31:24 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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>>>“Muslim and Jewish children are entitled to the same protection as all other children,“ she said. She added that the practice caused unnecessary pain and was medically unbeneficial.<<<

Which is the same situation that Chick-Fil-A finds itself confronting.

In both cases, the state has decided what actions are morally permissible despite the religious beliefs of those involved. Circumcision is a key ritual element to being Jewish. It’s not just slicing off the foreskin. I’m assuming that the Moslems feel the same way.

Is there psychological pain involved with telling children that they’re eating the flesh and drinking the blood of their Messiah? Is it necessary? Apparently a bureaucrat in Norway knows what is necessary and what isn’t.

The Baha’i Faith has a ritual fast from sunrise to sunset that takes place every March. Could be painful; hunger is no laughing matter. You need to eat. Not eating for 12 hours every day for one month might be medically unbeneficial. Is it necessary? The state is taking it on itself to make that decision.

Not to mention the medical lack of necessity of Native Americans ingesting peyote and wandering the landscape finding visions, or being forced to sit in a cross-legged position for hours seeking dharma with a Buddhist monk.

It is strange indeed to watch Western civilization evolve towards totalitarianism, taking baby steps toward tyranny. This is just another step. I guess if you’re one of the remaining Jews in Norway, you can practice your religion, as long as the authorities approve the practice.

God help us.


14 posted on 08/08/2012 4:31:24 PM PDT by redpoll
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Symbolic? “Here, pull my finger.”


15 posted on 08/08/2012 4:34:06 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Jewish women don’t get cervical cancer.

Hmm...Maybe Merck wants to sell their vaccine in Norway?


18 posted on 08/08/2012 4:42:29 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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20 posted on 08/08/2012 4:54:12 PM PDT by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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Too much creamed herring has rotted their minds.


22 posted on 08/08/2012 4:55:57 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Apparently, they have never lived in really hot parts of the world. Circumcism prevents a lot of diseases. There are some really good reasons to have your children circumcised.
31 posted on 08/08/2012 5:44:35 PM PDT by fini
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Ban circumcision? They will have to kill me first.


32 posted on 08/08/2012 5:58:57 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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-——Genesis 17:9-10 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.-——

Not circumcising your male Jewish child breaks the bond of the covenant...

-——Genesis 17:14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.


39 posted on 08/08/2012 6:49:00 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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Don't circumcise your son shortly after he is born, but it is fine to rip him to bloody shreds, as long as he is still in the womb.
47 posted on 08/08/2012 10:22:27 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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