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Don't fear Ryan
Politico ^ | 08/09/2012 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 08/09/2012 8:09:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: DannyTN

“I think we can balance the budget without touching entitlements.”

No, the current set up of “entitlements” creates long-term structural imbalance in the budget that CANNOT be rectified through other means. “Entitlements” must be addressed or we are going to go bankrupt, just like Greece.

And this is the hard part for everyone to accept; EVERYONE must give up something in order to make it work. NO ONE can be exempt, because once you start making exemptions, then you wind up reforming nothing.

Some “entitlements” need (social security) to be tweaked, others (welfare) gutted. But unless you accept the premise of making some significant changes AND sacrfices, we are just wasting our time. Might as well party until the crash.


21 posted on 08/09/2012 8:41:55 AM PDT by henkster (We're the slaves of the phony leaders...)
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To: DannyTN

Well you’re wrong in every part of your post, so at least you’re consistent.


22 posted on 08/09/2012 8:50:33 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

If the options are Ryan, Portman, Pawlenty or Christie, I’m all in for Ryan.


23 posted on 08/09/2012 8:52:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeekAndFind

That is precisely why Romney won’t pick Ryan. I’m afraid Willard is a candidate who thinks he can manage the welfare state better than the Democrats. And not that he wants to destroy it. The Mittster is trying very hard not to appear to be one of those awful Tea Party types who believe in the constitution and limited government. So we’ve got Mitt The Bland as our candidate. I’m prepared to eat crow if he picks Ryan. But I don’t think I’ll be wrong. (Where’s that bottle of ketchup?)


24 posted on 08/09/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: SeekAndFind

Best of the four, if you count Krispy Kreme.


25 posted on 08/09/2012 8:59:05 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Theoria; stephenjohnbanker; IbJensen; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy
RE:”I've never been impressed with Ryan.
-Supported TARP
-Auto Bailouts
-Medicare Plan D
-Every Bush budget, no cuts
-No Child Left Behind
-And, his ‘plan’ increases the budget and his ‘cuts’ aren't deep enough

Good list. His master is the party, not principle. Only the blind miss that.

I was very critical of his medicare ‘idea’ ‘proposal’. There were a number of things wrong with it and I could see early on that it was never serious anyway.

How are you going to sell a plan that promises all Seniors born before a certain date that they get the full golden medicare benefits that are given now, with zero cuts, and the rest born after a certain date are pretty much on their own to find a private insurer? Talk about high risk pools/

Then the defense was that that splitting of Americans was necessary to ‘get it passed’. Hell, only those over that magic age ~ 55 vote?? How could that possibly sell?

There was no real bill, nothing ‘passed’, Ryan convinced no one, in fact a Romney POTUS led Republican party congress would never write a bill like that symbolic one they all voted for. Nor would any Republican POTUS congress that had to run for re-election. The whole thing was a scam.

26 posted on 08/09/2012 9:06:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: SeekAndFind
Would you like to know what these threads are teaching me? I have learned that the gop/e do not believe that we are on a path to economic destruction... that they do not want to shrink government or roll back unaffordable feral programs... they want to continue the path to communism... they just want to rule over the collective and control it themselves. They are also convinced that America needs to become a failed European styled socialist experiment... a putrid Petri Dish of failure.

LLS

27 posted on 08/09/2012 9:09:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney/Ryan sounds good, but Romney/Rubio sounds better. This is a race mostly about demographics. Romney has the white male vote, and needs to appeal to either Hispanics or women much better than he currently does. If he picks Rubio or Martinez he grabs a lot more votes than he would by selecting a wonky white guy, and this type of VP pick more greatly neuters the rabidly leftist media. Like it or not, Hispanics and women will greatly decide this election and many more to come, so it’s high time for the GOP to get ahead of the curve.


28 posted on 08/09/2012 9:44:38 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: MestaMachine; kingattax

So do we respect the idea and Ryan is not a bad choice at all. We just think the other option is better because Ryan can provide fresh new leadership in the House which is greatly needed. McDonnel as the VP is a great choice because he is a good Gov with solid executive experience


29 posted on 08/09/2012 9:49:12 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will be most happy if Ryan is chosen, over all of the other front runners. Forty two, three kids, Catholic, sounds great to me. One odd, sinister item about him from Wiki, his great grandfather died at 59, his grandfather at 57, and his father at 55, all heart attacks....


30 posted on 08/09/2012 10:08:33 AM PDT by matthew fuller (They'll have to pry my gun, my bible, and my chikin from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Democrats’ assault over Medicare will be ferocious — not to mention lowdown and dishonest. Hell, they’ve already all but accused Romney of killing someone, and they haven’t even gotten around to Medicare. When the barrage starts, Romney won’t be able to duck and cover or look at his shoes. He’ll have to win the argument — or at least hold his own.

This is what I think Sarah Palin would handle well. She took on the political establishment in Alaska with a "Make my day!" approach ... and WON!

31 posted on 08/09/2012 10:27:09 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Theoria; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; IbJensen; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; ...

” I’ve never been impressed with Ryan.

-Supported TARP
-Auto Bailouts
-Medicare Plan D
-Every Bush budget, no cuts
-No Child Left Behind
-And, his ‘plan’ increases the budget and his ‘cuts’ aren’t deep enough “

Ryan hasn’t shown anything, or proved anything....except that he has voted for TARP. Medicare Plan D, and “No Union Teacher Left Unfunded”.

By the way, it’s easy to advocate something you KNOW your own party won’t vote for : )


32 posted on 08/09/2012 12:20:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: DarthVader; MestaMachine
So do we respect the idea and Ryan is not a bad choice at all. We just think the other option is better because Ryan can provide fresh new leadership in the House which is greatly needed. McDonnel as the VP is a great choice because he is a good Gov with solid executive experience

+1

33 posted on 08/09/2012 4:48:20 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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