California needs to be fixed. They are the 8th largest World Economy. America cannot afford to let California die. We obviously can’t afford to let them go down the road they are on. Something drastic has to be done....what is that? I wish I knew. But the bottom line is, We cannot allow them to fail!!!!
The fiscally sane states will end up bailing the rat-run bankrupt states.
>> California needs to be fixed. They are the 8th largest World Economy. America cannot afford to let California die.
That’s the right kind of attitude!
‘’’ But the bottom line is, We cannot allow them to fail!!!!
Why not? Too big to fail? :)
Unfortunately it seems that the only way for a politician to learn anything is for him to personally fail - big time.
California's problems didn't just spring from the earth overnight. It has been building for the last 20 - 30 years that I know about. If I can see it from Florida after being stationed in California for four years it must be very obvious.
Yes, California's crash will be very painful for me at many levels. But, I see no tectonic shifts in California's direction at any time without it.
Have you ever considered that as California goes so go the rest of us?
-——We cannot allow them to fail!!!!-——
Though I certainly do not want to see them fail, we are the “United States of America “ 50 sovereign states ....if they are failing “they” need to fix themselves ....
By bailing them out we only enable them to continue to fail....
When the libtards in CA do not have electricity or can no longer buy food, maybe their brains might actually engage ....
Never heard that Rhode Island is too small to fail....
We MUST allow them to fail.
That is the only way to fix California.
Why not? Seems to me that allowing california to wallow in the pig sty that it is making of itself would be the absolute best thing for the country.
A lot of liberals need to learn about the real world. And living in the third world hell hole they are making of themselves would do it I think.
The only redeeming qualities I've seen from California in a long time are the presence there of Freerepublic (which could be moved to a more sane state), The navy base in San Diego and a couple of air bases. The navy base can't be moved, but everything else could be (and should be moved to lower cost sane states)
There is little America can do for California. The saying goes this way: the first generation earns the money, the second generation manages to keep it, and the third generation spends it all. California is in the fourth generation now. The money's been spent, but the lifestyle goes on. This is happening where I live, Illinois.
All the wealth built up in a low/no-tax and low/no-regulation environment has been eaten up. The principle is gone, but America didn't do that. You and I didn't vote these policies. The Welfare State is the utopian dream of the rich and ignorant (not necessarily the same).
What can America do to reign in the policies implemented at the state and local level in California? What policy should we put in place? You're right that California is critical to America, but you have now generations of people trained not to work. They've never had to strive for anything, so they don't know how. Everything has been given to them. To run against that is to lose election after election.
Here's my proposed solution. Add ten states to the union. Take the top ten urban counties and make them their own states with the remainder of the existing counties remaining as their own state. In this way you could unburden the suburbs and countryside and allow them to thrive outside the undo influence of city liberals. What do you think?
Three generations from shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves. - Andrew Carnegie
Actually, we MUST let "California" die.
Not California the land. "California" the modern liberal morass.
The "Eighth largest economy" has less to do with the geography than it does the foundations of economic freedom which sprouted there partly because of the geography. Intel does not need mountains.
We obviously can’t afford to let them go down the road they are on. Something drastic has to be done....what is that?
Both true. We cannot afford "their" stupidity and recklessness. But "we" cannot cure it. Something must indeed be done, BY THEM.
But the bottom line is, We cannot allow them to fail!!!!
Unfortunately, this is completely incorrect.
"They" MUST FAIL FIRST ON THEIR OWN.
No different than a headstrong, errant child. Only one possible way to truly learn a life lesson: live it.
Anything "we" force them to do or accept will merely encourage them that they are superior and would have been successful in their utopian dream if we hadn't come in and ruined it with "austerity" or some such boogey-term.
Let them die so that they may be reborn.
What you are suggesting is “too big to fail”. Hogwash. This is the very attitude that allows the Left to recoup, rebuild their power & authority. Failure, OTOH, exposes the total incompetence of the Left to govern. They need to learn that lesson. The rest of America needs to see what insane liberalism does to people & states.
It is obvious to me that Jerry Brown & Co. are forging ahead with fiscal insanity in the sure knowledge that Obama or Romney or Santa Claus will eventually come to their rescue with billions of free money - my money. Mommy's very presence emboldens the child. Well, if I have a say, CA will get NOTHING for a bailout. Nada! The state can rot in the hell they made.
Perhaps California needs to die. Or at least the California Welfare State. Once the welfare system collapses under its own weight, perhaps only then would change be possible.
We (in California) used to have a part-time Legislature, ‘corrected’ if I am not mistaken, by Governor MoonBeam (first round). If legislators came for a vote and LEFT Sacramento to work real jobs, a whole lot could be changed. And the state would be flush.
Gorbachev once said this about Russia. What emerged, however flawed, was better.
Let CA crash and burn.
California needs to be fixed. They are the 8th largest World Economy. America cannot afford to let California die. We obviously can’t afford to let them go down the road they are on. Something drastic has to be done....what is that? I wish I knew. But the bottom line is, We cannot allow them to fail!!!!
Are you kidding? That’s the beauty of federalism...allow the states to experiment. Some will fail in their efforts and others will prosper in theirs. If CA continues on the same path, there will be an even further exodus of the “producing class” and the state will go bankrupt.
The 40 year decline of Detroit should serve as an stark example to the voters of CA.
Yeah, we can ... gleefully.
ex-socal dweller
We cannot allow them to fail!!!!
We cannot allow California to extort the rest of the states, most of whom try to live within their means and balance their budgets.
Are you saying that there should be no expectation of responsibility from California. Why should California even worry about spending and their deficit if they are rewarded with “we cannot allow them to fail” speech? We sure as heck can allow them to fail. That’s the only thing that will save the state. California legislature needs a massive failure on their hands before anything will improve.
“America cannot afford to let California die. “
“Too big to fail” is a dumb idea.