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To: dervish

Was not aware that humans and animals were identical in behavior and training methods. LOL.

Work with working type dogs much? Any? Every time I see a Rotty, Dobe, or GSD at a shelter, they are either said to be shy/not trusting (great potential for being a fear biter) or it says that they should only go to ‘experienced’ owners, or no kids, no other dogs. I can read between the lines of that, and no, I would say that most aren’t ‘bad dogs’ didn’t say that and sorry if you took it that way. A large number have been mistreated, and that is why they are that way. My last dog (before my current mali) was a WG/Czech import bred bitch that had been sold and brought back to the breeder. She was scared of her own shadow, but protective, great potential fear biter. It took about two years to get her confidence back, and she made a great dog. BUT, if she went to an average guy, not someone who has OB/bitework experience and knows how a dog works, it could have been a disaster just as quick. That is why a recommendation to get a working breed dog from a shelter for the average joe is IMO only, generally not a good plan.


91 posted on 08/18/2012 7:28:50 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: nobamanomore

“You should be smart enough to realize that when one of these dogs ends up as an adoption, odds are if it’s a shepherd, dobe, presa, pit bull, rotty, it is there because it has bitten someone. That’s just a fact of life. “

and

“A large number have been mistreated, and that is why they are that way. “

So which is it?

Also, many dogs can only be in one dog families. Yes, I have rescued shepherds. At this point I work mostly with pits. IMO the problem with dog training is the current methodologies (much like the leftist views on child rearing and affirmative action). I am a Koehler trainer.

Are dogs and children the same? No. Dogs have a much greater potential to recover from abuse. Children in abusive family situations are often irreparably damaged. That is a terrible tragedy.


108 posted on 08/20/2012 11:03:20 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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