Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 19 August 2012

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 19 August 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

August 19th, 2012

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Ed Gillespie, adviser to Romney's campaign; Robert Gibbs, adviser to Obama's campaign.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Govs. Martin O'Malley, D-Md., and Bob McDonnell, R-Va.; Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed; Ted Cruz, Republican Senate nominee in Texas.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill.; former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani; Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform; Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Stephanie Cutter, deputy campaign manager for President Barack Obama's re-election campaign; Kevin Madden, adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign; Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa; Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.; Norquist.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Cutter; Eric Fehrnstrom, adviser to Romney's campaign; former Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa.

[PaleoBob]

This is the reason communism and nationalization doesn’t work in building cars or any other enterprise including Healthcare, Medicare and Social Insecurity. The gummit has no profit motive which is the simplest way to motivate people and maintain costs. When you take that out of the equation you have to replace it with bribes and graft which leads to corruption and waste making inferior products and subsidies which is what we are seeing today. For the short sighted Pol they have a Works Project they can point to that is creating jobs even though it is creating more waste and abuse. This is why it doesn’t work for Chevy and why it doesn’t work for Medicare, you have to have people motivated by self-governing profit to make the company efficient and healthy.

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Yes, yes, yes and yes.

In the private sector, a “job” might be functionally described as a creation meant to further the profitability of the product or service in play.

For the Demovik, a “job” is a purely political event in the pursuit of more power and more privilege for the elite ruling class.

[bray]

Why would I kiss that money goodbye? Because I love my Country and that is the only way to save it. The end of Medicare and Social Insecurity are the only way out of this mess.

Who said we needed to retire for happiness?

[rodguy911]

True enough, Rod. Medicare and SS are both unsustainable. I get a kick out of Gibbs on Fox about "extending" the life of Medicare (Part A) by 8 years with Obamacare. The reality is that Medicare is a pay as you go system, just like SS. Medicare Part A has been running a deficit since 2008. To make up the shortfall, IOUs from the Medicare Trust Fund must be cashed in from the General Fund, which borrows 42 cents on the dollar. The 2016 or 2024 dates are when the IOUs run out. The fact is that Medicare is in the red and sucking up General Fund dollars. And the premiums for Medicare Parts B and D cover only 25% of the costs. The remaining 75%, by law, must come from the General Fund. With 10,000 people retiring every day for the next 20 years, is it any wonder that we are in big trouble? By 2030 one in five in this country will be 65 or older--twice what it is now. And by 2030 there will be only two workers for every retiree. I wish the GOP would go beyond the $716 billion raid on Medicare and emphasize the immediate impact of IPAB, which Sarah Palin described as a Death Panel. This part of Obamacare will affect seniors immediately. They will decide what treatments can be reimbursed or are acceptable. This will have a much more visceral connection to seniors who are just being assured by the GOP that they won't be affected. Once you start throwing around numbers with claims and counter claims, most people's eyes glaze over and tune it out. It is time to resurrect the term Death Panel, which is part of the existing law. It is not a plan, but a fact. Posting HTML This forum allows optional use of most HTML tags. If your post does not contain HTML, it will be converted to HTML when posted, retaining paragraphs as typed. This conversion is not performed if you have anything resembling an HTML tag in your text.

Great stuff much of which probably many of us did not know. How long will 10,000 per day be retiring and what will the effect of all this be in just a few years?

[Girlene]

Define “medical professional” and what business do they have deciding what a doctor can and can’t do for his patient? We do not want to be Soviet citizens comrade Gibbs.

Agreed, bray. I'm pleased someone is finally bringing it up. These non-elected offciails I believe are appointed by the executive branch. Regardless, it consolidates power in DC over all our health care decisions. Beyond frightening.

[kcvl]

Define “medical professional”

Unelected Berkley/Harvard professors wearing loaned white coats?! University of Wisconsin medical students writing notes to striking teachers/union members?!

[Unrepentant VN Vet]

Social Security/Medicare and “financial viability” are an oxymoron.

....and they’ve been that way ever since they were “passed into law”.

If I were to put Pension and Medical care plans reflecting those two programs on paper for my company, I’d be disowned by my entire family, laughed out of town, thrown in jail for Falling-Down-Dumba$$ Fraud or All of The Above.

Next time you come across a politician touting the wonders of those CF’s, ask the fine fellow just why he’s not in them.

/lecture

[Morgan in Denver]

I didn’t take this personally. I agree with you.

One thing that brings me hope is the successes we’re having with Tea Party candidates. As more true conservatives are elected we’ll be changing the direction of congress one vote at a time.

[kabar]

The end of Medicare and Social Insecurity are the only way out of this mess.

We have 47 million on Medicare and 54 million on SS now. Those numbers will increase dramatically over the next 20 years. There is no way these programs are going to end. There is absolutely no political will to do so. They must be reformed not ended. That is just a political reality.

[rodguy911]

Exactly,I traveled all over the state,last week,2,000 miles. I finally found one obama supporter in deep South Fla. Can’t find anyone else! They are all RIH!!

[TomGuy]

Medicare starts at 65, not 55, unless you qualify for disability.

If you get SS, you automatically get Medicare at age 65, unless you have qualifying private insurance.

Same with Part D (prescription drugs). You can opt out, but you will be assessed a penalty for each year you are not covered by an qualifying (private or Medicare) prescription drug plan. If you ever do opt in, you will still be annually assessed the penalty for the non-covered years.

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Keep in mind that YOU have been paying in to both SS and Medicare during your working years.

Would you pay into a private insurance for decades and then decline any benefits from it?

[ROCKLOBSTER]

which is a better use of your Sunday morning? Watching the Sunday Talk Shows or going to church?

Depends on whether or not your church is worth going to.

Watching the encroaching enemy on TV trying to destroy us will probably prompt some genuine heartfelt prayers and personal motivation.

This as opposed to the milquetoast, watered down services delivered in many liberal agenda "churches"

God is everywhere.

[Fishtalk]

okay, I’m going to go through this one more time.

BTW, I could not agree with you more. You want to shore up any wobble on the part of senior voters, go over that 15 bureaucrats-unelected-over and over. That will scare the bejeesus out of anyone.

Now let me map out this alleged shortfall of Medicare Part D....only 25% is paid for by the users?

I take: Crestor, Tricor, Metropolol, Lovarstan. It doesn’t matter why...I had a heart bypass four years ago and these are meds I must take. I don’t want anyone else to pay for my drugs and I pay plenty.

I pay...$35 a month for the right to belong to Part D. I pay $250 a year deductible...which changed almost double this year which nobody told us about.

Then every quarter I pay about $300 for my drugs.

That’s almost $1500 a year out of my pocket for quite ordinary drugs, been around forever, all of them allegedly in the generic available stage.

I simply do not believe that this amount does not pay, using the law of economies of scale, with private businesses handling this thing (every year we can change and the businesses hype their offering...we have choices)...the cost of my medicines in a year.

When these meds were not in generic we had to pay a WHOLE bunch more, I get this...to pay for the tests and research costs to bring the drug to market. Not to mention the constantly suing lawyers which take first chance to file class lawsuits cause the drug made somebody burp.

We paid it. Levitraceum, a drug husband must take for seizures as he once had a brain infection, costs $1000 a month when we first signed up. We paid it.

I paid a fortune for Lipitor when it wasn’t protected.

So I did pay for the R&D costs and such so don’t give me this.

Cause if $1500 a year out of my pocket doesn’t “pay” for the cost of my four little pills I take daily then the big drug companies are robbing us, nothing less.

And you assert my $1500 only is 25% of the cost?

I don’t believe that for a second.

[MNJohnnie]

Politics is the based on perception. Sarah Palin public urging 0 to dump Biden for Hillary this week may have just won the election for Romney/Ryan.

I think the regime was really thinking of dumping Biden for Hillary. That would of been a real game changer.

O is not connecting with the blue collar base of the Dems. The Clinton's are still intensely popular with blue collar Dems. Now that Palin is on record publicly urging the move, 0 is boxed in. If makes the move he looks weak and ineffective, if he doesn't make the move he is stuck with Biden’s dead weight on the ticket

Well played Ms. Palin!

[Morgan in Denver]

Gov Perry cited some numbers that I can’t remember exactly but I believe it was in the tens of thousands of doctors who have moved to Texas. Texas health care is doing great.

People have to realize 0bamacare may give a person a card saying they have insurance but that does not mean they can find a doctor to honor that card.

[Girlene]

Thank you, MestaMacine. I wondered if it was related to the Lance Armstrong Foundation.

Watching Wallce panel on FOX - Rove says obama’s plan raids medicare from seniors to pay health care costs for those who are not.

Evan Bayh - on the vote this fall, Bayh claims voters will ask who do I really trust on the Medicare issue - that goes to the democrats...lol. Asks are we ready for this debate now. All the back and forth is a wash. Krystal disagrees now that obamacare has passed.

Joe Trippi (not sure) - if you repeal obamacare you will have an insolvent Medicare by 2016.

[kabar]

10,000 each and every day for the next 20 years. We are an aging society and the baby boom cohort will be going through the entitlement programs like locusts. It was/is entirely predictable. Congress should have acted much sooner. The longer we wait, the more draconian the solutions.

[Morgan in Denver]

This wasn’t my quote but I agree with both you and the quote.

[Fishtalk]

And please do not forget, as I mention constantly....

.....YOUR EMPLOYER MATCHED YOUR CONTRIBUTION 100%!!!!!

That’s double what came out of your paycheck.

So says this lady who’s done payroll all her life.

[bray]

RG, next week I will tell my miracle story and my brush with Hollywood. It is truly amazing the flood that has happened in the last couple months.

[MNJohnnie]

And how may senior citizens do you think use Twitter?

What is so amazing about the Leftists is they spend so much time tell themselves their own propaganda on Facebook or Twitter.

Good for them, better they spend their time preaching to themselves then doing anything actually effective.