Posted on 08/21/2012 12:34:55 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
Good catch - Waikiki Lodge!! A far distance (in HI) from upper Kalihi area.
What freaking liars. What to speak of FMD didn’t even live on Kalihi St until 1957.
People fall for the craziest nonsense. Gilbert is shoveling it out and people are eating it up. It ain’t digestible, though.
Exhibit 2: Vice raid conducted by Honolulu Police Department at the Negro Elks Clubhouse at 2994 Kalihi Street on Dec. 20, 1952
The HPD photograph shows black servicemen being led out of the Waikiki Lodge of the Negro Elks Clubhouse with a uniformed Navy MP with a camera and a flashlight in a joint HPD and military police vice raid conducted Dec. 20, 1952.
It’s childishly obvious that Gilbert is lying for fame, revenue and helping promote lies about the guy in the WH. Why? Maybe because he’d be a NBC with the SAD/FMD myth. The real question is why any rational person would swallow this swill. Waikiki and upper Kalihi are many miles apart....
Residential
Property Class Please select the Land Details tab.
Card 1
Story Height 1
Occupancy TWO-FAMILY
Full Baths 2
Total Living Area 1964
Bedrooms 6
Year Built 1927
Eff. Year Built
First Floor Living Area 1052
Half Baths
Additions
Lower Floor 1st Floor 2nd Floor 3rd Floor Area
FINISHED BASEMENT LIVING AREA 912 sf
Data Last Updated : 19 Aug 2012 2994 Kalihi St.
This address is a 1 story with a basement. Always has been. Two family occupancy.
Whoever thought it was a four story didn't know how to read the County Assessors site. They probably thought the below meant additions to the building, but that is not the case. That sentence is just a part of their site and if there had been additions of this nature they would then put it below that sentence like they put there is a basement.
Additions
Lower Floor 1st Floor 2nd Floor 3rd Floor Area
This is a false statement. Gilbert never claimed any such thing. You have been corrected on this matter before. It is possible that you originally made this mistake due to your extremely poor grasp of the English language. (Which also contributes to your gibberish issue.) When you repeat this false staement, it raises suspicion that you are intentionally lying. You should stop repeating this lie -- it is rude and it is trolling. WHEN THEY ORIGINATED FROM THE FREE-VINTAGE-PORN WEBSITE.
No need to scream like a crazy person. You're still wrong. The snaps originated from Frank Marshall Davis, who took the nude pics of Ann Dunham in his home and sold them to photo agencies. Decades later, some landed on that website. More contemporarily, the photos were sold to pin-up and porno mags, which Gilbert tracked down on eBay.
what you have from the University of Hawaii is nothing but a letter with AN ENROLLMENT DATE. FALL, 1960.
Yes, we do have that official document. You have nothing to substantiate your claim to the contrary. You need not scream like a crazy person. it doesn't make your BS more true.
Your above statement that there is "nothing but," is actually a lie, because, as you know, we also have the U Washington transcript indicating the UHawaii classes she received credit for when she transferred to UWashington.
You have no record of attendance and no transcript. She may have enrolled, but you have nothing to show she attended.
More lies, as indicated above.
why would you want to waste your time with a crazy person?
I'm just trying to help out the folks reading this thread who may be confused by your lies and crazed rantings. If you'd stop trolling and lying, I wouldn't need to correct you.
So much hangs on the validity of the identity of the erotic images of a Model who posed for provocative images wearing variously, stockings, earrings and high heeled shoes, or various corselletes sometimes with long gloves. She posed in a number of locations, she is shown in situations in which she is in the same room with a number of other women, she starts off looking very young and slim and then as she ages, she puts on weight, her bust size increases, she wears more make-up...Gilbert shows them all in his mockumentary
The first images shown came from the free-vintage-porn website (now empty) the remainder from magazines Gilbert maintains, we are told, he obtained through e-bay. In a previous article on WND the impression given was the images came from the belongings of FMD himself.
All which suggests that if Frank Marshall Davis had taken the photographs of this model, he would have had to have known her and followed her career for a number of years, and that he had an industry going at his home where his wife and five children lived, while groups of women came in and out to have their photographs taken.
None of which could have been Stanley Ann Dunham, who, if she was in Hawaii before 1963, when she's shown with a two year old boy, was only there for less than one year - NOT FOR THE NUMBER OF YEARS THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE MODEL WERE TAKEN.
I just cannot bring myself to reply to people who pose as freepers here and live only to tell lies and hurl abuse. (And call what they do, research.)
It really beats me how the address Waikiki Lodge 1304 shown in the image could be described in the caption below as a totally different address. And it doesn't look like any kind of a raid it looks more like a group of people leaving a building being led by a sailor.
Anyway, the address is there in the image and it does not fit the caption. Brown Deer has provided the address of the Elks Lodge.
The claims that Fred Nerks is making are part of the totally unsubstantiated Mal-Val narrative which postulates that Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf are the parents of Barry.
A long thread inviting evidence in support of the Mal-Val narrative has yet to have any claimed evidence posted:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts
"Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)"
"In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
"Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father."
According to the sign visible in the image, which DOES NOT APPEAR TO SHOW A RAID OF ANY KIND IMO the people are shown at the address of WAIKIKI LODGE 1304 which was located at 1316 N Vineyard Street.
SHOW ME WHERE MARK IDENTIFIED THE TWO BOYS. SHOW ME. SHOW ME WHEN THE PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN. SHOW ME.
What you insist upon is about as valid as Joel Gilbert insisting that the Model was Stanley Ann Dunham.
He can't, and neither can you. And until the pair of you substantiate the identifications, all you have is an opinion and a disgusting, bullying attitude.
“...A long thread inviting evidence in support of the Mal-Val narrative has yet to have any claimed evidence posted...”
You wouldn’t know what a LONG THREAD looked like, you tiny minded little poser.
THIS IS A LONG THREAD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts
Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret
AND THAT’S DATED YEARS BEFORE YOU JOINED.
correction.
years/ONE YEAR
Methinks it’s best for FR if you carry on with this thread without me, after the previous that turned into a bunfight when certain people entertained the readers with various forms of bullying and disgusting behaviour, I don’t want to assist them to create a repeat performance.
I’ve achieved what I set out to do, I think it’s been clearly shown that Joel Gilbert is a joke, a dirty little scumbag whose ‘work’ has no place in any serious discussion.
Rather than give sport to the muckrakers, I’ll withdraw, or this thread will also end up as a joke in the smokey back room.
| WAIKIKI LODGE NO. 1304 IBPOE-W |
And of course Mark Ndesand’s word is as good as gold! His say-so alone means “whew, the truth at last!”.
Hmm, I wonder why Mark subsequently photoshoppsed that picture to radically change the image, and then removed it entirely? Odd.....
That's a fact. Gilbert is out to make a buck and muddy the waters; that's probably also garnering him money behind the scenes.
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