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Dee Snider lashes out at politician for using Twisted Sister song
New republic ^ | August 21, 2012 | WENN

Posted on 08/23/2012 7:36:48 AM PDT by Beaten Valve

Rocker DEE SNIDER has lashed out at U.S. vice presidential hopeful PAUL RYAN for allegedly using his popular tune WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT during a campaign stop in Pennsylvania. Ryan, who is currently touring America to support Mitt Romney's bid for the White House, reportedly tried to boost morale during a political rally on Tuesday (21Aug12) by blaring the classic Twisted Sister hit to pump up the crowd. However, Snider has taken issue with the politician's use of the song and has lodged a formal complaint with Ryan's camp. A statement from the 57 year old reads, "I emphatically denounce Paul Ryan's use of my band Twisted Sister's song 'We're Not Gonna Take It' in any capacity. There is almost nothing he stands for that I agree with except the use of the (home exercise regime) P90X." This is not the first time a Republican Party candidate has been reprimanded for their choice of music - earlier this month (Aug12) rockers Silversun Pickups fired off a cease-and-desist letter ordering Romey to stop playing their track Panic Switch.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2012; achillwind; algore; boycotthollywood; censorship; deesnider; defundtheleft; hollywoodreds; maninadress; paulryan; pmrc; shutupandsing; twistedsister; usefulidiot
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I'm sure tha Snider laughs all the way to the bank over this...
1 posted on 08/23/2012 7:36:53 AM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Beaten Valve

Why do rock and rollers complain over use of their music by Republicans but never complain about Democrats using their music?

I remember the group Heart complained about Sarah Palin using their music in the last campaign.

I heard that the rock band Rush was taking action against Rush Limbaugh to stop him from using their music.

For as much as you hear old rock and roll tunes in commercials, movies, TV shows, etc. nowadays, clearly they are happy to give such permission for use of their music most of the time.


2 posted on 08/23/2012 7:39:52 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Beaten Valve

I would think that any publicity would be welcomed by this has been.


3 posted on 08/23/2012 7:40:10 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Beaten Valve

Why don’t these candidates - and also Rush and Hannity - use music from artists who support them or at least support free speech?????

I am tried of this petty sniping. Screw them.

I’m sure there are MANY artists who would appreciate the support and publicity


4 posted on 08/23/2012 7:40:41 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Beaten Valve

We’ll just make our money off the greedy capitalist system, then tell you how government is the best thing for you! Don’t use my music you evil, capitalist-supporting pig! Just buy my records!

I think I have the gist of what Dee’s saying...right?


5 posted on 08/23/2012 7:40:51 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: Beaten Valve

Why don’t these candidates - and also Rush and Hannity - use music from artists who support them or at least support free speech?????

I am tired of this petty sniping. Screw them.

I’m sure there are MANY artists who would appreciate the support and publicity


6 posted on 08/23/2012 7:40:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Beaten Valve; 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; ├čudda├čudd; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Big Guy and Rusty 99; .
Didn't Dee Snider ENDORSE Al Gore (in 2000) after used the PMRC Senate hearings to take the national stage in 1988?

What a putz.

7 posted on 08/23/2012 7:41:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Beaten Valve

The Who’s lyrics would be much better anyway...We won’t get fooled again.


8 posted on 08/23/2012 7:41:34 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker (Oppose Senate Amendment S.A. 2575! I need more than 10 rounds in my magazine.)
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To: Huskrrrr
I would think that any publicity would be welcomed by this has been.

Has been? You mean, "never was".

9 posted on 08/23/2012 7:42:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Beaten Valve
Ann and Nancy Wilson of the Band Heart sent a “cease-and-desist” in 2008 because of Sarah Palin (”Barracuda”), IIRC. It was the only time they have been in the news in the last 10 years. Snider? Clownish band and music. The GOP should go with “Kiss My Ass” by Ted Nugent, that’ll tee off the pinkos.
10 posted on 08/23/2012 7:43:20 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Rush Limbaugh had used the song “Back to Ohio” by the Pretenders as his theme song until Chrissy asked him to remove it. Her parents were Limbaugh fans so she reluctantly gave El Rushbo permission.
11 posted on 08/23/2012 7:43:35 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Beaten Valve

If Paul Ryan bought the MP3 file, who’s to say he can’t play it? I don’t get this. Is there a license they have to get in order to play a song in public, like they have with videos? Do MP3 files come with a disclaimer saying it’s only for personal private use and can’t be played in public?

What’s the legal basis for an artist wanting to control where a person can play an MP3 file after that artist sold it to them?


12 posted on 08/23/2012 7:44:16 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You pay the required fee to ASCAP or BMI, you get to play the song.

It’s about as simple as that. The deal does not come with a
political override button.

Ryan will probably quit using the song though just to stop him from whining.


13 posted on 08/23/2012 7:44:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Beaten Valve
Didn't Snider just get out of rehab? I think this time it was heroin....or meth.Can't remember which.
14 posted on 08/23/2012 7:45:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: Beaten Valve
If Ted Nugent or Charlie Daniels or any of the handful of other patriotic musicians can't do them a custom song or find an appropriate one from their repertoire, I'm sure they can introduce somebody who can.

At least the rest of us know not to buy anything or play anything from Twisted Sister again.

15 posted on 08/23/2012 7:45:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dfwgator

You mean Dee Snider the new spokesman for Stanley Steamer commercials, I kid you not. “LOSER”


16 posted on 08/23/2012 7:46:03 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: silverleaf

Hannity was criticized by Bruce Hornsby for using “The Way it Is” on his show.
I believe prog talker Stephanie Miller used to use We’re Not Gonna Take it on her show but it changed to Walking on Sunshine when Obama was elected.

In the video for We’re Not Gonna Take it, Mark Metcalf who played Niedemeyer in Animal House plays the father of a young boy—and at the end of the song itself he can be heard repeating a line from the film “A pledge pin??? On your
uniform???”—along with “you are a disgusting slob!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI

In the film, Niedemeyer orders Flounder to “drop and give me 20” (pushups) in a pile of horse dung.


17 posted on 08/23/2012 7:46:14 AM PDT by raccoonradio (")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I read a post from someone that basically said that if a music guy like Dee Snider injects himself into the public debate, then his music becomes public property, and copyright should no longer apply.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 7:46:33 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Beaten Valve

Knock yourself out, petulant sister Dee. Like anyone in the real world cares.

19 posted on 08/23/2012 7:46:58 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Ryan will probably quit using the song though just to stop him from whining.”

Awe heck, he should just use this as an excuse to TURN UP THE VOLUME!

Isn’t that kinda what the song is all about?


20 posted on 08/23/2012 7:47:13 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: Beaten Valve

I don’t know why they’re picking some lame songs like this...
I’ve got some suggestions for themes...
How does one get in touch with the right person in the campaign who can change it?
Asking for FReep help.


21 posted on 08/23/2012 7:47:44 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: dfwgator; Huskrrrr

Really, this guy had what? One hit! He’s a one-hit wonder who has gotton more mileage out of that one lipstick-wearing hit than most any other “musician”.

I never understand why this guy keeps popping up like some type of musical authority. The guy basically is known for one, single song — and wearing red lipstick.


22 posted on 08/23/2012 7:47:52 AM PDT by Obadiah (If Reagan had another son he would have looked like Paul Ryan.)
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To: Beaten Valve
It's all about getting another 15 minutes of publicity for these degenerate has-beens.
23 posted on 08/23/2012 7:48:03 AM PDT by twister881
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I wanted to add Tom Petty to your list and went searching. I found this list on one website. Notice that not ONE of the politicians is a democrat. It is because most rock and rollers are barking moonbats and don't mind giving a freebie to fellow lefties. There are some exceptions (Nugent).

In Ronald Reagan's 1984 presidential campaign, his use of Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the U.S.A." upset The Boss, and ultimately had to refrain from any Springsteen songs or associations.

In 2000 George Bush jr. was forced to back down from using Tom Petty's track "I Wont' Back Down" for his campaign entrances when Petty hit Bush with a letter from a lawyer.

John McCain's 2008 "My Hero" campaign came to a fast halt when the Seattle rock group rejected McCain as a hero of their own and forced him to immediately stop using the track.

In 2008, American songwriting machine, Jackson Browne sued the GOP and John McCain over the use of his track "Running on Empty" in political commercials.

In even more 2008 McCain rallies, John Mellencamp's tracks "Our Country" and "Pink Houses" were heard blasting over the sound system. The Cougar pounced on the opportunity to end the illegitimacy and the songs were never used again.

2008 Vice Presidential nominee, Sarah Palin may have been nicked named "Barracuda" for her viciousness on her high-school basketball court, but that didn't convince the members of the group Heart that Palin's use of their hit "Barracuda" was appropriate. The group expressed their political differences with Palin, demanded she discontinued the use of the song, and Palin was silenced.

A track from Tom Petty's catalog was hijacked once again in 2011..this time by Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, Bachmann who chose the song "American Girl" to represent a Bachmann rally opening, was never permitted to use a track by Petty again.

Earlier this year, Newt Gingrich was immediately barred from using the Rocky III anthem song, "Eye of the Tiger" by the group Survivor.

24 posted on 08/23/2012 7:48:09 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why do rock and rollers complain over use of their music by Republicans but never complain about Democrats using their music?

Because they are overwhelmingly liberal.

25 posted on 08/23/2012 7:48:40 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If Democrat musicians are going to persist in giving free concerts for Obama (average cost per act $25,000-1,000,000 for a jerk like Springsteen), assess it as a campaign contribution.

Same with the broadcast of their songs.

Also, find out which songs were written/bought by someone OTHER than the famous singers (that’s who ultimately owns the song).


26 posted on 08/23/2012 7:48:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Hey, Congress is great about passing laws and exempting themselves from them. What happened here ?!

Just pass a bill and exempt Congress from Copyright Laws too.


27 posted on 08/23/2012 7:50:10 AM PDT by George from New England (Ecaped CT in 2006, moved to north of Tampa)
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To: Beaten Valve

Another thing: Just suppose a GOP Department of Justice took the Eric Holder approach and refused to initiate or prosecute cases of illegal copying, downloading and file sharing when the so-called artist was not one of a friendly political stripe.


28 posted on 08/23/2012 7:50:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: butterdezillion

BMI and ASCAP - buy a license, pay for using it in a public setting. Not sure if an artist can say he gives permission to license music through either of these parties to anyone but x person or venue.


29 posted on 08/23/2012 7:50:32 AM PDT by Apogee
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To: ConservativeStatement

But Gretchen Wilson sang it on the campaign trail, rocked it and was better than Ann Wilson.
I recall the rest of the band, especially the out-standing drummer on the song, loved Sarah using it!


30 posted on 08/23/2012 7:51:00 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Obadiah

He was only famous because the video director was smart enough to hire “Niedermayer” from Animal House for their videos.


31 posted on 08/23/2012 7:51:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Why would Ayn Rand fans not like Rush Limbaugh?


32 posted on 08/23/2012 7:51:56 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Vigilanteman

The perfect song to use is “In America” by Charlie Daniels if RR wants to make the association between the Reagan recovery after Carter and His/their recovery after Obama...

In America lyrics

Well the eagle’s been flying slow
and the flag’s been flying low
And a lot of people are saying
that America’s fixing to fall
But speaking just for me
and some people from Tennessee
we got a thing or two to tell you all

This lady may have stumbled
but she ain’t never fell
And if the Russians don’t believe that
they can all go straight to hell
We’re gonna put her feet back on
the path of righteousness and then
God bless America again

(chorus)
And you never did think that
it ever would happen again
In America, did you?
You never did think that
we’d ever get together again
Well we damn sure fooled you
We’re walking real proud and
we’re talking real loud again in America
You never did think that
it ever would happen again

From the sound up in Long Island
out to San Francisco Bay
And every thing that’s
in between them is our home
And we may have done a little
bit of fighting amongst ourselves
but you outside people best leave us alone

Cause we’ll all stick together
and you can take that to the bank
That’s the cowboys and the hippies
and the rebels and the yanks
You just go and lay your head
on a Pittsburgh Steeler fan
and I think you’re gonna finally understand

(chorus)


33 posted on 08/23/2012 7:52:49 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: LostInBayport

Libtards are beyond being mere barking moonbats, the Zappa children and Dee Snider ENDORSED Al Gore in 2000 after he and his wife famously went after the music industry (notice how his wife doesn’t give a $#!^ now). It was all a ruse but they are still ignorant fools for endorsing him.

He whipped up hysteria, as I suspect his daddy told him to, just as Tennessee Senator Estes Kefauver (D) played up the “degenerate” images in comic books to get public attention. Kefauver’s national run for the White House kept Al Gore Sr. from being able to get on the ticket. images in comic books to get public attention. Kefauver


34 posted on 08/23/2012 7:53:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Vigilanteman
At least the rest of us know not to buy anything or play anything from Twisted Sister again.

Way ahead of you there, I never bought any crap from these painted whores the first time around.

35 posted on 08/23/2012 7:55:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

When you hear it in commercials, movies and TV shows they’re getting paid, usually quite a bit. If a politician uses the most their getting is the ASCAP fee which is like $50. Plus of course they’re all liberals, that’s the tendency in the art producing community.


36 posted on 08/23/2012 7:58:43 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: dfwgator
He was only famous because the video director was smart enough to hire “Niedermayer” from Animal House for their videos.

Didn't he come up from the same lame hair metal band that dominated radio/MTV in the 1980s, and therefore dominated the sharts, I mean charts?

37 posted on 08/23/2012 7:59:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: discostu

I wouldn’t call TS “Art”.


38 posted on 08/23/2012 7:59:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: matginzac
The drummer in Heart or the Gretchen Wilson version (which was also done with the band Alice in Chains at one point). The drummer in Heart was Michael Derosier and the beat had comparisons to Zeppelin's “Achilles’ Last Stand.”
39 posted on 08/23/2012 8:00:22 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: butterdezillion

Thats what i was thinking. Its not like it is being used
to sell another product or in a film that makes other revenue. Why isn’t the situation is - he(or any candidate)
is at a big party for themselves, they have a favorite song
and like to hear it at a certain moment. Also its kind of loud and everyone else hears it too.

If they want us to fight for them, which i’m gearing up to
do, it would help to have a little fired up motivational
action,rather just we’ll fight for you in words.


40 posted on 08/23/2012 8:01:16 AM PDT by americas.best.days...
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To: Beaten Valve
So, hire a cover band to cover the tunes you want to use and put some musicians to work.

You get your music; the cover band gets work and exposure and idiots like Snider get pissed off.

Win-win-win.

41 posted on 08/23/2012 8:01:16 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“For as much as you hear old rock and roll tunes in commercials, movies, TV shows, etc. nowadays, clearly they are happy to give such permission for use of their music most of the time.”

Actually, these stories are pretty misleading because the simple fact is, most artists don’t have to give you permission to use their music, and conversely, they can’t stop anyone from using their music, so long as the proper licensing fees/royalties are paid. The rights to 99% of all modern popular music of any style is held, not by the artists, but by the publishing companies, like ASCAP or BMI.

The artists sign over any controlling interest on how their music can be used when they make agreements with those companies, and those companies let just about anyone use whatever music they want, so long as they pay the piper.


42 posted on 08/23/2012 8:01:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Beaten Valve

“Has Been Rocker” whinning.


43 posted on 08/23/2012 8:03:47 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: Beaten Valve

Hell hath no fury like a one hit wonder who’s only moderately successfull song is sampled by a Republican.


44 posted on 08/23/2012 8:03:55 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: silverleaf

Artists and musicians especially just generally tend to be lefties. If they only used artists who were not pants wetting lefties, they’d be mostly limited to Country and Classical music. Since they are choosing music to appeal to a broad demographic, either for votes, or for listeners, that just doesn’t make sense commercially.


45 posted on 08/23/2012 8:04:05 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: dfwgator

I like TS, especially when they got away from the record company and could stop imitating the LA sound, but in the end neither of our opinions matter for what I was saying. The point is that anybody that’s in a creative or performing art (music, acting, writing, painting, etc) generally is a liberal. That’s how it works, that’s how it always works. The folks in the liberal arts that aren’t actually liberals are very rare.


46 posted on 08/23/2012 8:04:11 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: Beaten Valve
It's funny but I have never seen Dee and DWS together is it possible they are one and the same?
47 posted on 08/23/2012 8:05:57 AM PDT by THE_RAIDER
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To: Vigilanteman

At least the rest of us know not to buy anything or play anything from Twisted Sister again.

Again? They were just noise on the radio between good songs in the day.


48 posted on 08/23/2012 8:07:51 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why do rock and rollers complain over use of their music by Republicans but never complain about Democrats using their music?

Because they are all liberal degenerates and are afraid of what their fellow travelers might say. This their way of soldiering.

All these songs are crap, Dee Snider is crap, Crissie Hynde is crap, Fleetwood Mac is crap, it's virtually all crap.

We're Not Gonna Take It is juvenile crap about teenage rebellion. Ohio was anti Reagan liberal hand wringing. Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow is insipid and wightless, and also confused crap as poetry.

Why not think about times to come
And not about the things that you've done
If your life was bad to you
Just think what tomorrow will do

Perfect for the Democrat party. No history, no responsibility, all about feelin fine, it's all good bro.

We fall into this ridiculous trap every election cycle. Some communist musician is offended by republicans playing their stupid song. Why don't we use songs that plainly uphold some theme that is consistent with OUR values, instead of trying to stretch some pathetic popular song to fit? It's lame and counter productive.

49 posted on 08/23/2012 8:11:13 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: butterdezillion
Is there a license they have to get in order to play a song in public

yes...public use of songs requires a royalty fee paid to one of several collection companies for artists royalties of which most are based about 35 miles north of where I am typing on Music Row in Nashville

BMI and ASCAP are the two biggest i think

any use of published music larger than a wedding probably is liable to pay for times played and maybe audience estimation..not sure

in Rush's case it's huge

in the case of TV commercials, ,movies and TV where music is used there is more than just royalty paid...there is a negotiated fee

like Scorsese scored flicks with all that great music...he negotitates the price...the bigger the artists the higher...which is why low budget films use cheesy canned music

Country guys or Bob Seger doing pickups and tractor TV ads...same thing ..a negotiated fee

someone here in the biz knows better than I but knowing a few artists in my time around here that is a nutshell of how they explained it to me

those who wrote the song or own the rights will also get a cut unless they sold that right

50 posted on 08/23/2012 8:11:21 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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