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New Audio Surfaces of Obama Defending Infanticide in Illinois
Life News ^ | August 23, 2012 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 08/23/2012 3:20:44 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

The child attempting to play the roll of a man. That is all he is. An infant in life. An infant in knowledge. An infant in leadership. An infant in decision making. An amateur in the White House. This is what we have now. Basically, when you really look around the political landscape these days, we do not have “statesmen” or “leaders”. We are STUCK with “politicians.”


41 posted on 08/23/2012 5:37:10 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Signs of the Times are clear. The days grow short. Your only way to avoid is BELIEVE in Him!)
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To: LibsRJerks

Excellent point! I hope someone does a commercial with this tape and then cuts to say something like you just said:

Can we really trust this man with the healthcare of any person in this country?


42 posted on 08/23/2012 5:40:08 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: NYer
I just hope someone, somewhere, decides to make this an issue (it should have been in 08 had the wuss McPain or the RNC chosen to) and decides to run ads throughout the country.

I would dig very deep to contribute to such a cause.

43 posted on 08/23/2012 5:44:54 PM PDT by neveralib
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To: manc

They probably won’t read it. My Dad is a practicing Catholic who is very anti-abortion, but somehow he found a way to rationalize a vote for Obama in 08. He said with Roe v. Wade in place Obama and McCain were functionally equivalent. Now he knows better. He likes to tell me he is not a one issue voter, to which I respond “If that one issue is killing innocent babies then you should be a one issue voter. Would you vote for someone who had been convicted of killing an adult by shooting them in the head at point blank range? If you wouldn’t, then you can’t vote for Obama”.

Romney has a crummy record on abortion, but Obama’s record on Infant Born Alive legislation for me makes him a truly evil human being. Think about it - a baby is born alive, struggling to survive, and is just left in a disposal room to die. Obama supported that. There was a story in 08 where a nurse in Illinois recalled a story where an aborted baby was born alive, was left to die, she held the baby in an attempt to comfort the baby as it struggled for its life, eventually dying. Obama opposed the legislation that would prevent this from happening. Then he lied about it, as outlined in the article above. Words fail.


44 posted on 08/23/2012 5:47:10 PM PDT by PAR
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To: Jedidah
"is one of the most chilling and abhorrent things I’ve ever heard a human say."

Right. Obama wants to make sure that there was a legitimate murder committed.

45 posted on 08/23/2012 5:49:20 PM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: NYer
Comparison of the Illinois and federal BAIPA bills

On March 12-13, 2003, the Illinois state senate committee chaired by Senator Barack Obama amended the proposed state Born-Alive Infants Protection bill (SB 1082) to exactly track the language of the already-enacted federal BAIPA, by adopting Senate Amendment No. 1, 10-0. The committee then voted to kill the amended bill, 6-4, with Obama and the other Democrats on the committee voting against it. The bill that Obama and his colleges voted to kill, as amended, was virtually identical to the federal law. The entirely non-substantive points at which the state bill language still differed from the federal law are shown in brackets below (except we have ignored differences in capitalizing).


46 posted on 08/23/2012 5:58:19 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: alancarp

There are even sicker people - look up Peter Singer and other sickos who believe that a parent should have the right to terminate a child up to 1 month after they are born if it interferes with the quality of the parents life.

I don’t know too many parents whose quality of life isn’t affected by a new baby, the thought of killing them is just horrid.

Satan is the only answer to this evil.


47 posted on 08/23/2012 6:01:13 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: NYer

I doubt Romney or the RNC would ever touch something this controversial, but it would be perfect for an independent ad by a pro-life pac: imagine the line below repeated several times (along with a graphic providing a tally of all the black children aborted during Obama’s time in government):

” . . . if that fetus, or child – however way you want to describe it – is now outside the mother’s womb and the doctor continues to think that its nonviable but there’s, lets say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just out limp and dead . . . they’re not just out limp and dead . . . they’re not just out limp and dead . . . “

If you think the donkey’s howled like stuck pigs after the ads pointing out how BO gutted welfare reform, imagine how’d they’d respond to an ad describing Obama’s view of infant abortion survivors.


48 posted on 08/23/2012 6:17:29 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: NYer

Did he support “legitimate murder”?


49 posted on 08/23/2012 6:26:12 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: PAR
your dad sounds very much like my MIL from up north in MA.

Every issue she agrees with my wife, her daughter and I but she always sees to find some excuse to vote Dem, however she has said she will not vote this time for obama.

I've just been speaking to my oldest 14 and my wife about this and explained what he did not vote for and what he wanted.

It truly is sick, could there not be a group which would put an AD up telling the public how abortions are done and what obama would do if that child survived the abortion.?

My oldest is with the sheriff explorers and so learns many aspects of the law.
He asked me why is it that if a pregnant woman is killed then the murderer is done for two murders, the baby and the mother but if a mother kills her child then some seem fit to say that is alright.

He has a great point but shame that some adults cannot see this.

I'll be honest I;m middle aged and never cared less about abortion or even the homo's but as I had children and especially as I raised my boys to be future men and fathers then I looked as life differently.

50 posted on 08/23/2012 6:27:33 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Stosh

Agree. Chilling to any normal hu,an being and worse than the rape gaffe.


51 posted on 08/23/2012 6:28:30 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: No Socialist

“There are even sicker people - look up Peter Singer and other sickos who believe that a parent should have the right to terminate a child up to 1 month after they are born if it interferes with the quality of the parents life.”

That is disgusting! Like the parents have bought a new TV and after 30 days they decide it doesn’t fit the decor of the living room and take it back. We are doomed as a society lost in a sea of egoism and materialism.


52 posted on 08/23/2012 6:51:37 PM PDT by ChowChowFace
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53 posted on 08/23/2012 7:12:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: No Socialist

This one goes even beyond Peter Singer:

Pro-abort prof argues babies not ‘persons’ til 18 months, not an ‘offense’ against child to kill it
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2687304/posts


54 posted on 08/23/2012 11:02:29 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: manc
"I'll be honest I;m middle aged and never cared less about abortion or even the homo's but as I had children and especially as I raised my boys to be future men and fathers then I looked as life differently."

That is real. I am an Army Vet, Korea and Vietnam, father of four and when you raise them to be responsible adults you see things differently.

55 posted on 08/24/2012 3:57:20 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Never on my watch

I agree, and joined by the all the priests who administer sacraments to Nancy Pelosi and her ilk


56 posted on 08/24/2012 8:27:12 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: randog
If a doctor attempts an abortion, and the child lives, isn’t the doctor guilty of attempted murder?

If the hospital refuses care (even with permission by Obama's policy) to an infant born alive, isn't that negligence and child abuse? Murder is a crime. If the "definition" of life changes, it doesn't change that all along it has been murder and neglect.

57 posted on 08/24/2012 10:34:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: austinaero; wagglebee
Maybe Akin can find a person who was conceived due to rape like the very lovely Rebecca Kiessling (attorney) to say “Democrats think I should be dead,,but here I am! Thank you Mr Akin for fighting for those like me!” Something like that

There is a better example to tie in with this audio, someone who has survived an attempted abortion.

Melissa is the survivor of a failed saline infusion abortion in 1977 (copies of her medical records that document the abortion meant to end her life can be viewed on this website’s picture page). Despite the initial concerns regarding Melissa’s future after surviving the attempt to end her life and being born alive at approximately seven months gestation, she has not only survived but thrived. With a Master’s Degree in Social Work, she has worked in the fields of substance abuse, mental health, domestic violence/sexual assault counseling, and child welfare. Melissa and her husband Ryan have a daughter, Olivia, whose birth at the same hospital where Melissa’s life was supposed to end has significantly shaped Melissa’s ministry.

Planned Parenthood Supporters Mock Abortion Survivor (Live Action News - 3/19/2012)

Invite her to the 2012 GOP convention.

58 posted on 08/24/2012 10:41:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: NYer
Pinged from Terri Dailies


59 posted on 09/02/2012 10:40:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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