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Is Mitt Becoming More Conservative?
The American Thinker ^ | August 31, 2012 | Rosslyn Smith

Posted on 08/31/2012 12:49:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

...Protecting the middle class might be the theme of Obama's campaign ads, but the defining movement of this campaign came when Obama belittled the efforts of Main Street America when he stated that "you didn't build that." Those sneering words about smart, hardworking people revealed the ugly side of Obama's redistributionalist ideology. As in 2008, most of the media accept all the carefully scripted images of Obama as Gospel truth while they busy themselves trying to either hide or spin away all those extemporaneous words and deeds that display Obama's true beliefs and character as being either out of context or aberrational....

This campaign is coming down to two competing views of America. As it plays out, I think something very profound may be happening to Mitt Romney. Romney reminds me of a good many smart businessmen I have known. They live their own lives by a set of solid small-c conservative rules, but they are too busy solving smaller daily problems to think much about political conservatism as a coherent system. Such people often pay lip service to the left-of-center conventional media wisdom about big government and public morality even as they rigorously practice all the bourgeois virtues of thrift, hard work, neighborliness, sobriety, and sexual continence in their personal affairs.

....this very smart, very competitive man is facing an opponent who is perhaps the most rigidly ideological man ever to become president. Romney doesn't like what he sees happening to the nation, nor does he much like the person he is running against. Confronted with the problem of beating not just the person, but also the ideology, and then fixing what is broken, Romney may be discovering for the very first time that he is actually far more ideological than he ever thought he was.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: america; faith; morals; romney2012; values
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Comment #121 Removed by Moderator

To: Timber Rattler; Virginia Ridgerunner; commonguymd
Wow, there’s that Mormon card again. Got anything new, like, say Romney’s liberal record?

Your heroine Sarah Palin is supporting Romney & Ryan, and she would tell you to get with the program and close ranks for the purpose of getting 0bama out of the White House. Talk to Virginia, she used to have the occasional good idea before she disappeared last year.
122 posted on 08/31/2012 5:16:16 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Is Mitt Becoming More Conservative?

Maybe he is, but we'll have to wait and see. And we won't really know until he wins and begins to govern. But it is very common for presidential candidates from conservative states to become more liberal in national politics, and for candidates from liberal states to become more conservative.

I'd say he will become more conservative, but how much more we'll only know if he becomes president.

123 posted on 08/31/2012 5:16:33 AM PDT by Will88
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To: sf4dubya
Politico? Seriously?

Heh...you do know that everything in that 2010 story was subsequently confirmed, and that Politico is the weapon of choice for the DC-entrenched GOP-E against Conservatives? Right?

I didn't think so.

124 posted on 08/31/2012 5:16:36 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ansel12

You are correct in what you stated.

Here you go...you need to read this, and keep it safe for later fire. It contains important information about Romney and his power grab.

Romney’s “RNC Power Grab”: What Really Happened

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/dean-clancy/romneys-rnc-power-grab-what-happened?source=facebook

By the way, it is so bad, good folks with power are talking about breaking and going third party. This will be happening soon and not at the last minute just before the next election.

My best to you.


125 posted on 08/31/2012 5:17:15 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: mkjessup
Your heroine Sarah Palin is supporting Romney & Ryan, and she would tell you to get with the program and close ranks for the purpose of getting 0bama out of the White House.

Honestly, I don't care who Palin is or is not supporting these days. My business is with the corrupt, decrepit, backstabbing GOP-E and the war it is currently waging against Conservatives in general, and the TEA Party in particular.

Whose side are you on, jessup?

127 posted on 08/31/2012 5:21:38 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ansel12
Morally Mitt has a lot of deficiencies ~ on the other hand Obama sounds like your basic Cargo Cultist. There's no doubt Mitt doesn't think you build a road and then the stuff gets sent down the road to the merchant who sells it in his store ~ Staples sure doesn't work that way.

So, let's get back to the Cargo Cult. It arose back when Europeans moved into the South Pacific. It increased in popularity during WWII when the natives saw the military come in, build a runway and then planes would land and disgorge all sorts of wonderful things from food in cans to machinery.

Folks have earned doctorates studying Cargo Cults so you are privileged to read all about them in every excruciating detail on the net.

The basic flaw is the Cultists imagine that "You didn't do that" ~ that, in fact their OWN ANCESTORS meant for them to have the things that came on those planes which they sent to those islands.

If you go back and dig through Obama's turgid prose you'll find that basic belief about the world in general.

The guy actually has no idea where the starting points are ~ the coal mines, iron mines, copper pits, limestone quarries, cement plants ~ that make up the basis for modern industrial society.

He cannot comprehend how farming works ~ imagining the primary federal involvement in agriculture to be handing out food stamps!

At the same time I do have some problems with Mitt's imagining that someone gets out there and trims the tops on Michigan's trees ~ that's the climate ~ place is too cold for human life ~ so he probably needs to catch up on that part before he gets in trouble.

He also needs to get with the picture on RTL ~ killing babies doesn't improve your public image at all in some circles.

128 posted on 08/31/2012 5:22:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I agree, CW, and it is good to hear from you again. You have been a Freeper in good standing for a very long time.

Mitt was not my guy. I supported Newt during the primaries, but the primaries are now over. The choice before me is now not Newt or Mitt. It is the obamanation in the White House or Mitt. Even though I was not wildly enthusiastic about W in 2000 and 2004, I believe the country was better served by him than it would have been by either Gore or Kerry; and I therefore believe I did the right thing when I voted for W.

I think this will be a very close election. I do not share the view popular on this forum that it will be 1980 all over again. America has changed a lot since 1980; and no matter how bad Obama has been, he is an incumbent and we first have to overcome a pretty big margin from 2008. That being said, I also believe Mitt will win. It will then be up to all of us to keep the pressure on the House of Representatives to remain as conservative as possible. One of the great disappointments of the Bush years was that the House also governed from the center rather than the right and therefore abetted Bush' somewhat big government, compassionate conservative tendencies.

And the process of influencing the House begins now. You gain influence over a member of the House during not after an election. Unfortunately, my Representative is a Dem, and she will clearly win reelection. About a quarter mile away from my home, however, is the District of a targeted Republican. I know him. I know he and I can have reasoned discussions. I will contribute the maximum allowable amount to his campaign and otherwise work for his reelection. I will gain influence over him.

I urge all Freepers to act in a similar way. Through the House we can move Mitt to the right. If Obama wins, we will have no such opportunity.

129 posted on 08/31/2012 5:23:13 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: Timber Rattler
Your heroine Sarah Palin is supporting Romney & Ryan, and she would tell you to get with the program and close ranks for the purpose of getting 0bama out of the White House.
Honestly, I don't care who Palin is or is not supporting these days. My business is with the corrupt, decrepit, backstabbing GOP-E and the war it is currently waging against Conservatives in general, and the TEA Party in particular.
Whose side are you on, jessup?


I'm on America's side, and I'm on the side that has the best chance of dislodging that filthy Communist Kenyan from the White House. That is Job One, nothing else matters except defeating 0bama, so whose side are YOU on, Virginia?
131 posted on 08/31/2012 5:25:07 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: BlackElk
As to Mittler's late mommy Lenore, Wikipedia does note that her ill-conceived US Senate race in 1970 was lost to Philip Hart by a 2-1 landslide although Hart and his wife had been arrested in anti-Vietnam War protests.

And I guess that tells you nothing about the voters she was trying to attract?

132 posted on 08/31/2012 5:27:04 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: sf4dubya
I am more than aware of the teeny tiny movement within the GOP to get fiscals fighting with socons.

I think it's a little more than "teeny tiny." Go back and check the Santorum threads from the spring, and you'll see full-throated assaults on evangelical Conservatives, both at FR and in the Republican Party at large. The word "Bible thumper" was tossed around quite casually in attacking the faithful.

The long-and-short of it is that the GOP-E despises Social Conservatives, and is infuriated that we are holding it back from moving all the way to the Left.

133 posted on 08/31/2012 5:28:29 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s an election. Get your hopes up at your own risk.


134 posted on 08/31/2012 5:28:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: All

I liked his speech and as for the question, I feel he will be as conservative as we want him to be but close to half of the country won’t be voting for him so that’s a strong pull to the left and we can’t let off the pedal while guiding him right. I would never hire a guy that claimed to lower the sea levels and buy my gas but we have people that believe that and will rehire this guy so they can get their imaginary free stuff. They will have to be dealt with.

What I hope people understand is that this man is a consultant and you hire a consultant to tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear. He will go about solving problems in a very methodical fashion, hiring the best people, having them identify the problems, providing them with the means to create solutions and supporting them while they implement the solutions.
We have to make sure he hires the right people, they provide the right solutions to the right problems and that he is out front supporting them.


135 posted on 08/31/2012 5:29:28 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Timber Rattler
"You do know that this is a Conservative site, right?"

I certainly do. I also know that telling the truth, what ever it is, is also a conservative virtue.

137 posted on 08/31/2012 5:29:53 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Cronos
Mitt will be pushed whichever way his followers are pushing him. If we tea-partiers shout more and demonstrate more and come out more, we can push him more to our side. I have no illusions about Mitt being anywhere near a Palin, but he’s pliable, so lets ply him to our side.

Absolutely and futhermore it doesn't matter what the views of a Republican president are if he doesn't get control of the House and the Senate also. The important thing to concentrate on for tea-partiers is there.

138 posted on 08/31/2012 5:30:30 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: mkjessup

I’m on the Conservative side. Obviously, you’re not. Enjoy your Romney hemlock.


139 posted on 08/31/2012 5:30:46 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: sf4dubya
90% of the speakers at the convention were TEA party!

Yeah, sure. Whatever.

Jeb, Condi, Christie, Pawlenty, Daniels, etc.

140 posted on 08/31/2012 5:32:58 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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