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To: justlurking

>>Intrade can be manipulated with a relatively small amount of money.

16 points off of what all the polls show? What kind of money would that take?


55 posted on 09/04/2012 4:45:21 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000
16 points off of what all the polls show? What kind of money would that take?

The all-time highest daily volume for Obama winning the election was 21,889 shares on 9/1. That same day, the volume for Romney winning the election was 32,822 shares (also an all-time high).

A winning share pays $10. So, you can consider the price of the share to be approximately 1/10th of the probability of winning. At the close on 9/1, Obama was $5.84/share, and Romney was $4.21/share.

That means that 1 day's volume for Obama is 21,889 * $5.84 = $127,831. And the same day, the volume for Romney was 32,822 * $4.21 = $138,180. That's a lot of money to you and me, but that's chickenfeed to someone that wants to manipulate it for political purposes.

But, only a fraction of that would be needed. First, that daily volume is 4-5 times the average daily volume up until the last few days. Second, only a small number of shares are available for immediate trade right now, to satisfy outstanding orders. If you were to buy or sell all those, the price would move very quickly.

Right now, I could boost Obama's share price from $5.82 to above $5.98, buying 3,017 shares for $17,794. That would satisfy all the outstanding orders currently listed. Conversely, I could depress Romney's share price from $4.16 to below $3.88, selling 9,048 shares for $37,290. I wouldn't even have to own those shares -- I could make a short sale.

Moving either one all the way to 0 or 100 could get a bit expensive. There are a total of 410,183 shares for Obama and 402,797 shares for Romney. But, even at the maximum price of $10/share, that's still only a bit over $8,000,000 for both, combined. There are plenty of politically active people that can afford that.

So, do you see how easy it is to manipulate the Intrade prices? It's like a penny stock -- relatively moderate amounts of money can move the price a great deal.

56 posted on 09/04/2012 5:55:40 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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