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O'Reilly 'Stunned' At Caroline Kennedy's 'Catholic Woman' Abortion Remarks
Newsbusters ^ | September 7, 2012 | Tim Graham

Posted on 09/07/2012 1:01:37 PM PDT by NYer

The O’Reilly Factor began last night by broadcasting the convention speech of Caroline Kennedy, who came out and declared “As a Catholic woman,” she supports Obama because “Now isn’t the time to roll back the rights we were winning when my father was president.” As if Roe vs. Wade was decided in 1963?

O’Reilly was blunt. “I have to tell you, I am stunned. I am stunned right now at what she just said as a Catholic woman and then she went on to object to 40 states implementing restrictions on abortion like a 24-hour waiting period.” O’Reilly said  it “made my head snap back” when she proclaimed:

KENNEDY: His commitment to women is about even more than economic rights. It's about health care, reproductive rights and our ability to make our own decisions about ourselves, our families, and our future. When it comes to what's best for women, there is only one candidate in this race who is on our side, Barack Obama.

As a Catholic woman, I take reproductive health seriously. And today it is under attack. This year alone, more than a dozen states have passed more than 40 restrictions on women's access to reproductive health care. That's not the kind of future I want for my daughters or your daughters. Now isn't the time to roll back the rights we were winning when my father was president. Now is the time to move this country forward.

O’Reilly and Karl Rove discussed the speech further, and Rove found it to be a direct attack on the Catholic church:

O’REILLY: She's evoking her Catholic faith, which clearly condemns abortion, and using that as some kind of spring board into criticizing the restrictions on abortion that many states have passed. And the restrictions aren't you can't have one. It's wait a couple of days and think it over.

So maybe I'm wrong on this, but that made my head snap back. And here to help us analyze Fox News analyst Karl Rove who joins us from Richmond, Virginia. Did you pick that up when she said that? I mean, I'm -- I'm still flabbergasted.

KARL ROVE: Yes. Well, I think it was a direct response -- I mean a direct attack on the church. I mean it's going out of her way to say I disagree with the values of my church.

And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion. What we're talking about is the administration's effort to expand the realm of choice by, for example, requiring churches to provide contraceptive coverage to their employees regardless of the fact that it violates the deeply most-held tenets of that faith.

We have an attack on religious liberty that's masquerading as an expansion of you know, of choice. And you know, Miss Kennedy tonight sort of threw herself on the side of those who -- who would advocate such an attack on religious liberty.

O'REILLY: But not only that, I mean she cited her Catholicism when she didn't have to. This is what -- I don't object to her opinion.

ROVE: Sure.

O'REILLY: She has her opinion and she wants unfettered abortion, that's her opinion. Supreme Court has ruled abortion is legal in the United States. Nobody is denying anybody's rights to anything. But she -- that's a gratuitous comment. She didn't have to inject that she's a Catholic woman and then go and say she wants no restrictions on abortion. She opposes that.

That's -- that's offensive, I believe and I'm -- I'm frankly shocked that -- that she would do that. I don't know whether she is -- wants to attack her own faith or not -- I'm not -- I'd like to ask her about it. But I'm just taken aback.

ROVE: Well, are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi does it routinely.

O'REILLY: Yes I am. I'm sure -- Karl -- Karl --

ROVE: Nancy Pelosi speaking as the Speaker of the House of Representatives --

O'REILLY: Wait, wait. Wait.

ROVE: And now the former speaker, assuming that she can step in and declare what the theology of the Catholic church is.

O'REILLY: Karl, let me be clear on this. Nancy Pelosi all right, is a political animal. All right? Whatever she says doesn't surprise me.

This woman comes out under the heading of the Kennedy name and the Kennedy legacy and directly besmirches her church. I mean that's stunning.

ROVE: Yes well look, she -- she may not be a politician -- she may not be a politician in the way that Nancy Pelosi is, but she comes from a very political family. Her presence there tonight was on behalf of that family. She's been a political figure. She was a key endorsement for Barack Obama in 2008....

It's gratuitous when people of any faith go out of their way to basically say I'm a -- I'm a -- I'm a Catholic and I'm telling you that I disagree deeply with the Catholic Church's opinions and I'm going to do so in a political sphere in order to make it easier for people who share my particular faith to you know disregard the teachings of our church.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; kennedy; oreilly; rove
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To: NYer
Maybe she figures if abortion had been plentiful, poor Uncle Teddy wouldn't have had to leave Mary Jo to drown. Not that it hurt his political career much.

What a culture we are surrounded by, where purposely destroying a human being is called "health care."

51 posted on 09/07/2012 2:40:45 PM PDT by informavoracious
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To: miserare

Why doesn’t her Bishop have the guts to excommunicate this toxic witch?

$$$$$$$$$$ You know you did not need to ask that.


52 posted on 09/07/2012 2:44:50 PM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: NYer

O’Really is shocked?

This election has a lot to do with the country’s lowest demons tempting the Catholics to betray the religious freedom of having the right to live by their own faith. Seeing a Kennedy leading a shout out for rebellion is no surprise to anyone who actually pays attention. Bill sees no evil until it’s right in his face, because he does not want to measure good and evil. That’s why he’s an unwise and untrustworthy man.

Every liberal Catholic with power and influence, working behind the scenes or in front of the cameras, to empower humanists/socialists, are seeing no evil on purpose. It’s clear that socialists do not abide individual freedom, families or human life. They openly work in direct opposition to God’s law and wisdom. They seek human misery by advocating for the opposite of natural law and calling it pride and freedom. Liberals claim the chains of sin is “social justice”; smart and edgy “progress.”

Liberals have one thing right - we do have a choice for now; but not for long if they get their way. They do all they can to make sin appear wonderful and deny the suffering they sell. They would ban advocating against sin or withdrawling from it, if they could.


53 posted on 09/07/2012 3:33:44 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NYer

Caroline Kennedy is far more a wacko leftist, femi-nazi than she is a Catholic. She should at least admit as much. No person who consider themselves a Catholic can support abortion. Not one.


54 posted on 09/07/2012 3:42:35 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Swede Girl

“My father this and my father that.....”, well you didn’t know him on an adult level.

Interesting what being raised without your father can do, isn’t it? The fathers ARE glorified beyond reality. Saw 2016 last night. It’s clear how being without a stable father and family, being told how wonderful his alleged bio-father was, affected Obama. Clinton similarly was raised without his own dad. The impact on the individuals is extraordinary and in the case of individuals such as these, on the public, is even more so.


55 posted on 09/07/2012 3:50:47 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: NYer

“KILLING OUR BABIES is the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS TO US”!!! KILL MORE BABIES!!!....KILL MORE BABIES!! There aren’t enough DEAD BABIES!!!!! KILL MORE BABIES!! SICK.


56 posted on 09/07/2012 4:02:46 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BelleAl

Caroline Kennedy is as DUMB as a BAG of ROCKS!! It was SHOCKING to hear her “speak” like a stupid Calif. chick who had NO education at all.


57 posted on 09/07/2012 4:04:38 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ZULU
John Kennedy may have been a Democrat with personal flaws, but he was a patriotic American, and a Catholic, and she should be thankful he and Jackie didn’t believe in abortions to eliminate “inconvenient” human lives.

Jack was all of that but he wasn't real big on that "not committing adultery" thing as history has come to show...

Regards,
GtG

58 posted on 09/07/2012 4:05:46 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

please.....you just WANTED tofall away.....ther are PLENTY, the VAST MAJORITY even, that are STRICT ADHERENTS.....I call yor BLUFF.......go back to Mass after you go to Confession.


59 posted on 09/07/2012 4:08:07 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Call whatever you like. Not my problem.

But until you rationally disprove my statements with something other than emotion, I’ll stay right where I am.


60 posted on 09/07/2012 4:12:50 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: forgotten man

She’s a Kennedy first. Morals come last.


61 posted on 09/07/2012 4:14:07 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: Norm Lenhart

Only GOD can disprove your statements.


62 posted on 09/07/2012 4:19:12 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer
This position is analagous to hurling virgins (babies) into the volcano in an effort to appease it. These people regard new human life as a dangerous drain on what they perceive as scant resources.

I believe in a life of abundance, Caroline Kennedy obviously not.

63 posted on 09/07/2012 4:23:05 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Ann Archy

No, Anyone showing where the leadership of the RCC has taken a Kennedy or other high profile ‘Catholic’ to task, much less excommed them could EASILY disprove my statements.

Can you? No. Because it’s not happened. No matter how blatantly they spit in God’s face and claim their Catholicsm, the Kennedy/Pelosi Catholics are untouched by the RCC leadership. Period.

So again, show me where they have been slapped down publicly and I will gladly admit my error.


64 posted on 09/07/2012 4:25:16 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I hear ya Norm.


65 posted on 09/07/2012 4:39:03 PM PDT by demsux (Obama: THE job destroyer)
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To: NYer

Praying for you, O'Really.

66 posted on 09/07/2012 4:52:00 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Now that’s pretty damn dumb. I can believe that the Bloviator is that dumb. He’s never met a fence he didn’t want to straddle. The flag he nails to the mast is Jello.


67 posted on 09/07/2012 4:56:56 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Oratam

That’s why they’re said to worship Moloch, because they sacrifice babies. If they believe in anythng,they believe in baby sacrifice. Just read DU sometime, if you can stand it. Some monster over there-female at that-made a thread about how she unapologetically wants abortion on demand for any reason whatsoever and no woman should ever feel ashamed for having one. She was actually celebratory about it. Hard core ‘rats are evil, no two ways about it.


68 posted on 09/07/2012 5:05:40 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I never thought about it before but you are correct!

LLS


69 posted on 09/07/2012 5:09:37 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: LibLieSlayer

While the “Old money/powerful New England family” is a well worn plot device, the specifics of many stories are obvious variations on Kennedy exploits.

And there are HUNDREDS of books, if not thousands with identifiably “Kennedy” plots/backstories.


70 posted on 09/07/2012 5:14:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: NYer

That O’Reilly is “stunned” by Kennedy’s remarks says volumes about Bill.
Talk about clueless.


71 posted on 09/07/2012 5:15:51 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: mrsmel
Their ignorance and stupidity is truly mind boggling.

LLS

72 posted on 09/07/2012 5:16:18 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Ann Archy

Was her mom that smart...really?

I honestly don’t know. But she sure was a style icon.


73 posted on 09/07/2012 5:37:09 PM PDT by BelleAl (Proud to be a member of the party of NO! NO more deficit spending and government control!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I am on your side.

I had about twelve paragraphs written before I self-redacted and just arrowed down to a few clear truths:

1.In the USA, we all have freedom of religion enshrined as one of the primary points in all of our other laws.
2.No religion/church is forced to officially accept/acknowledge an individuals self-avowed claim to “membership status”, nor are they required to dispute false claims.
No such “right” to fraudulently claim membership exists under our laws. It is strictly a private matter. A civil claim can be made by either party, if one or the other side abuses the others, resulting in measurable damages.
3.Nothing in our laws preclude any church from denouncing fictitious claims of membership, or from announcing the severing of membership, publically, of former members, if they so choose.

74 posted on 09/07/2012 6:50:05 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: NYer
I love, just love, that they've all adopted the euphemism "reproductive health" for abortion.

Victim calls Philadelphia Abortion Doc Kermit Gosnell a "Monster"

75 posted on 09/07/2012 7:25:53 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Norm Lenhart
You have NO idea what has been said or done to those Catholics.....so stop acting like you do.

Everyone is responsible for their OWN soul, not their Priest;s or their Congressman's....their OWN.

76 posted on 09/08/2012 2:35:54 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: miserare
Why doesn’t her Bishop have the guts to excommunicate this toxic witch?

I keep asking that question on FR and never get a response.

I have only one conclusion to make and it's obvious.

77 posted on 09/08/2012 2:36:11 AM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: Ann Archy

I don’t have to ‘act’ like anything to see that if the leadership did anything they were thoroughly ignored. The Pelosi/Kennedy clans are still out there redefining Catholic theology and making a mockery of the faith and it’s adherents.

Nor do I have to ‘act’ like anything to see you excusing this lack of moral leadership. Target your outrage where it will do some good. IE the source of the problem.


78 posted on 09/08/2012 10:36:16 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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