Posted on 09/08/2012 11:34:56 AM PDT by nhwingut
Axelrod is proud of Gallup I’m sure.
One thing this Gallup/Axelrod coercion scheme does expose...are the other polls corrupted too?
I am going to have a hard time believing any poll now. In other words, credibility has been lost for all of these polling organizations.
The new jobs report isn’t a factor in these polls. Don’t despair yet.
Spot on post, I agree with every word.
That bad jobs report was surprisingly reported as such yesterday. CNN, AP, Huffington Post, and of course FCN all reported it was BAD for the President because the job market is weak. PLUS gas prices jumped again.
People are not being kept from knowing the economy is bad. The issue is Romney needs to go after Obama more on these numbers and why he would do a better job. The scary thing is after Labor Day is when the people really start paying attention to the election and the polls start to really reflect what might happen election day.
Not pretty for Romney right now when the man in office has spent us into a ton of debt and there are no jobs as the result for all the bailouts and stimulus bills.
You people all need to chill out.
Gallup is a weekend poll - which favors Democrats.
It’s a registered poll - which favors Democrats.
And it’s a day after their convention for crying out loud.
This is not 2008 - not even close. Obama didn’t have a record he could run on. Now he does, and it sucks. People know that. And he outraised McCain 2 to 1. This time, he’s being outraised.
Get your conservative friends out and vote.
The incumbent may be a disaster but Romney is running the worst campaign I have ever seen. Defense all the time. From Tax returns to not mentioning the troops to having no clear policy message.
If you want to beat Obama and he is vulnerable you have to say why you are better. Just saying he is bad vote for me will not work. People have to be able to latch onto a reason or they will stick with status quo.
We make think this is silly but it is a fact. Romney has been defined. Without a blunder at the debates this is over. I have been saying this for 6 months and the idiot Romney campaign thinks carpet bombing negative ads will work. The difference in the general is Obama has money to fight and free media goes up tenfold.
Wake up Romney! Speak conservative policy. Tell voters why they should vote for you. Demagogue and fear will not get you home.
I know that Gallop already got threatened by AxelFRAUD for saying back in April that Romney had a lead over Obama so I dont think we should trust Gallop, they are in the tank for Obama. I think I read somewhere that Obama always seems to do better on the weekend so I think that we should wait til maybe Monday or Tuesday to find out what the real poll numbers are. Its a shame that this country has so many morons on it that they would rather live in a Communist regime than live in freedom
Rigged.
Dole led Clinton after the 96 convention.
Dole went on to win as the post-convention poll suggested.
I'll even give it a little longer -- the 20th of the month before everything simmers down.
Romney only started deploying his pile of cash yesterday.
"The Obama campaign spent $166 million on ads through Aug. 30, compared with $74 million by the Romney campaign and $22 million by the Republican National Committee. But now, with Romney's general election resources available and the Republican-leaning groups continuing to air ads, the Obama campaign seems set to be swamped on TV."
Zero has thrown just about everything, except maybe Sandra Fluke's old condoms at Romney and he's only a few points ahead even after his post-convention bounce. I'm not panicking. Yet.
Romney is not ahead in North Florida. Alachua County is 2 to 1 Democrat, In 2008 Obama won that County along with Flagler, Hillsboro, Pinellas, Leon, and Volusia. The panhandle is conservative, but those area’s are sparsley populated.
Democrats LIED, female voters CRIED, America DIED.
Sadly, it’s only a matter of time for America. Immigration, letting liberals get away with what they do, and the biggest, turning from God.
Why? Because the state of FLA is still in play and it will come down to what side gets out the vote. So what if North Fla is heavily conservative, they still need to get out and vote in huge numbers to offset the liberal areas of FLA. They need to be excited. California has ZERO chance of going for Romney so yea, it would be dumb for Obama to spend any time or money in any area of Cali.
I think you misunderstand the Bradley Effect.
It isn’t shame about electing a black guy ... it is white people having trouble telling pollsters they’ll vote against a black guy for fear of the pollster thinking they’re racist. There may be some of that here.
Mostly, I think skewed samples are the problem. Recent polls have shown Romney up 15 among independents, up on the economy, roughly even on likeablility, high dissatisfaction with Obama, country headed in the wrong direction, etc.
Internal numbers don’t square with an even race. Not sure why ... but they just don’t. Couple that with high enthusiasm on the right, general malaise on the left ... I don’t think this is as close as these polls look.
SnakeDoc
“Not surprising. The DNC was masterful and aggressive compared to the weak, neutered, Obama-is-a-nice-guy-whose-policies-are-bad RNC. “
Some critical factors:
1) The Democrat base is passionate about their nominee and wants to win. They know four more years will cast in stone Obamacare and the socialist regulatory infrastructure they’ve put in place. Plus they know the Congressional Republican leaders (Boehner and McConnell) a reelected Obama will face are compromisers, not fighters. A reelected Obama will be free to continue the socialist revolution.
2) The conservative Republican voter base is not enthusiastic about its nominee. The nominee doesn’t embrace the conservative base and the elites surrounding him have contempt for the Tea Party. The base, to the extent it is engaged, is voting against the other guy, not for its guy. If the media can convince enough conservatives Obama will win, enough conservatives may not vote to ensure an Obama victory.
3) The media is all out for Obama and will carry the torch with no pretense at being objective. No lie will be too big to repeat until it becomes the truth.
4) Demographics trends are real. No doubt there will be a big ground game effort to get out the minorities whether or not they are registered or eligible to vote.
5) The white guilt factor. Believe it or not there are whites who have been brainwashed to believe voting against Obama is racist. In a race this close, 1% could swing the election.
6) The entitlement class has grown during the recession. Many people in their 50’s, the natural conservative constituency, have lost jobs in this recession and cannot find comparable replacements or jobs at all. They are now dependents of the state and will vote accordingly for self survival.
7) The health care system is a mess and the Republicans have offered no alternative to Obamacare. Status quo is not an acceptable alternative to Obamacare for many people struggling with escalating costs and preexisting conditions. The failure to articulate a more attractive alternative to Obamacare is the failure to take advantage of the public’s dislike of the President’s signature health care program.
8) Romney has apparently chosen to fight a “safe” campaign against the Chicago mob. A weak defensive posture will not win this game (ask McCain, George HW Bush, and Bob Dole).
9) There will be a late September or October surprise, either military or financial. When the nation is in peril, voters tend to stay with the known, not go with the unknown. Does Romney have a game plan to deal with it?
Yes well maybe it is a variant of the Bradley effect - people don’t want to be identified as not voting for 0bama. Such desire being only in part [hence the variance] because of race.
Indeed the biggest reason would be avoidance of ridicule.
Sorry if it was over your head. I’ll type slower - or twice next time - just for you.
As we get closer to the election, Romney backs off.. Gets quiet.. Yields to 0bama’s momentum. Allows the networks to sabotage his debates so 0bama gets re-elected.. NWO plan works.
State polling is always a little more tricky for pollsters than nationwide polling.
Excellent points, which support my belief that Obama will prevail. The GOP is spent and does not know how to fight anymore.
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