Posted on 09/08/2012 7:57:38 PM PDT by bopdowah
Notice the feds didn’t try pulling another Waco or Ruby Ridge for the 20ish years since. Yeah, they won in a slaughter, but it was a Phyrric victory they’re not keen on attempting again.
(The Elian Gonzales incident was the closest thing attempted, and that was on a very small house with a highly armed/focused fast team against unready occupants - more a politically-motivated kidnapping than anything else.)
A valid hypothesis. The plan was laid out by the man with the small mustache himself in Mein Kampf: his intent was to divide the continent (broadly speaking) among Japan, Germany, and England. He hated the idea of fighting over water, and was content to leave England to its islands.
Except for the ones in the hoods and woods.
They’d have to go into these places in significant numbers, and would not go unnoticed here or abroad.
That being said, they’d probably go after soft targets, like the average suburbanite.
And they’d do it with fines, liens, and the like.
It should also be noted that that occurred because of a near complete communications blackout. A blackout caused by a Cat 5 hurricane and subsequent tremendous flooding which, a) couldn't be duplicated by man and b) didn't alarm anyone (in the sense of being intentionally cut off) because it was caused by natural forces. People couldn't even walk to their neighbor's house to exchange info.
“They will do it quietly and under cover, even to the point of having armed Girl Scouts going door to door.”
I can just hear it happening in the Big Sh*tty - “Hello, Little Girl Scout. Come in and I’ll get you a nice bag of ammo.”
Good Luck getting parents to go along with that.
Cannot disagree with you on any of your points and I know quite a few of by buds that did not have to earn Purple Hearts to prove they could handle themselves.
But, they are infiltrating our country as we sleep and work our daily lives away.
This is the kinda stuff I was referring to:
UN base in Georgia overseen by Marine Quartermaster group. Storing bio-suits, logistical equipment, etc. Had a E6 down couple months ago that was off to training in Florida on the gear he was overseeing delivery on to handle proper storage.
NAFTA and CAFTA delivery terminal in Kansas that is owned by Mexico, Center of these United States of America, for staging of goods entering from South of the Border. Seems like a nice central location from which to launch operations and to house communications.
Civilians will not be resupplying, they are building supplys now for the first push (load wagon once). They will TAKE the supplies as they go (the circle).
The NOLA confiscations did not last long enough for word to get around. Insofar as it did, seems when it did the operation was shut down from the _inside_ via cops saying “NO!”
Insofar as confiscations did occur, NONE happened with a fight - they were handed over, or just taken from the weak. Those who made clear there WOULD be a fight were left alone. Famous examples are the videos of a little old lady being talked down then overcome to take her .38, vs. paid guards standing with AR15s and a calm “don’t try” look who were then left alone.
'ctdonath2', thanks for the background info on the NOLA/Katrina gun confiscations. Yes, I too remember that it didn't last all that long before it stopped cold and like you said, those that took part in the gun confiscation efforts mostly targeted easy or weak targets for confiscation (the ones that likely wouldn't put up a fight).
If my memory serves me right, most of those going door to door attempting to confiscate guns were out of state cop volunteers brought in to help augment local police in the post hurricane aftermath. I believe that it was outside cops on loan from California which spearheaded these confiscation efforts and like you said, they stopped when (a) the locals would not support them and (b) public and political pressure put on the local commanders to quit disarming law abiding folks trying to defend what was left of their homes/lives from looters and marauders.
I also remember the NRA and other Gun Rights groups took the authorities to court a little while after things settled down a bit and got a court order that stated the gun confiscations were illegal and required the authorities to make every effort to return all firearms that were illegally confiscated back to their rightfull owners or fully reimburse the owners for the full value of the illegally confiscated gun if they could not physically return the gun(s), which the authorities eventually fully complied with.
Also, Gun Rights groups, if I recall, may even had gone to court to try to stop the confiscations as they were happening in the immediate post-Katrina aftermath, but the authorities stopped the confiscations on their own before a judge could issue any injunctions.
Thanks for the info, TigersEye.
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