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To: Zeneta
RE: Any efforts by the govt’s of Turkey et al. [to reform Islam] are meaningless.

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk did it.. at least he led the conversion from Ottoman Turkey to a secular democratic Republic of Turkey founded in 1923.

The Islamist AK Party has steadily undermined the secular government in Turkey for a decade with lots of help, some say, from American citizen Fethullah Gülen a Turkish imam operating in Turkey and worldwide from a compound in Pennsylvania.

So now one could say "Any efforts by to thwart the [Islamist government] of Turkey . . . are meaningless."

35 posted on 09/15/2012 3:50:51 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I would simply suggest that reform attempts are short lived and therefore meaningless as the logic of islam (flawed as it is), once extended to its conclusion make lasting reform untenable.


38 posted on 09/15/2012 4:01:28 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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