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Boston Molasses [Even JENNIFER RUBIN Thinks Romney Campaign Is Floundering!]
Washington Post ^ | 09/16/2012 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 09/17/2012 9:16:29 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: MNJohnnie; Jim Robinson
Devoted Obama sycophant Kent

You know where to send any/all evidence in support of that claim, son.

Whenever you've got the time.

21 posted on 09/17/2012 9:41:42 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Romney has earned the adoration of the base, which has no problem with his positions?


22 posted on 09/17/2012 9:42:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"Obama-licking sycophant." Please.

Well at least you are honest about your real agenda here Obot.

23 posted on 09/17/2012 9:44:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
your real agenda here Obot.

I'll put my decade's tenure here (and my reputation with JimRob) on the line any time at all, at your convenience.

Whenever you're ready, son.

24 posted on 09/17/2012 9:47:27 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

There is precedent


25 posted on 09/17/2012 9:47:44 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is neo-lysenkoism.)
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To: D-fendr
The real critical point is going to be the debates when the two are side-by-side.

Obama has been supplied with the questions. Romney has not.

Consider some of the moderators.

The Obama-licking vermin in the Media will do all they can.

26 posted on 09/17/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (The Google thing is in the yard again. Sniffed the laundry, now it's looking in the septic tank.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Jim Robinson
So you scream insults at everyone who challenges your emotion base opinions then run to the owner to cry when your posting style is pushed back on you.

If you don't like being called on your behavior don't be the first to pull out he flame thrower.

27 posted on 09/17/2012 9:50:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
you scream insults

...?

Point to it.

28 posted on 09/17/2012 9:51:08 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Look, I get it, people don’t like Romney. But this article is just silly. Right now the events of the world and the Hussein regimes reaction to it is a free Romney campaign ad. Between the “no bullet policy” to Obama yukking it up with JZ while his ambassador was being sodomized, it is all visible to all. Mitt needs to do nothing while Hussein and Hillary continue to step in it..


29 posted on 09/17/2012 9:51:12 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Liberalism, thy name is Rageboy..)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Read every single one of your posts for the last month

100% attacking Romney, O% attacking Obama.

Being an Obama campaign activist may not be the INTENT of your posting, it is the result.


30 posted on 09/17/2012 9:52:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Read every single one of your posts for the last month

Then it should be simple enough for you to get me ZOTted, as (via your purported "evidence") an Obama supporter.

Go for it.

I'll wait right here.

31 posted on 09/17/2012 9:54:55 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Your actions speak louder then words

Boston Molasses [Even JENNIFER RUBIN Thinks Romney Campaign Is Floundering!]
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:51:08 PM · 28 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to MNJohnnie
you scream insults

...?

Point to it.
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Boston Molasses [Even JENNIFER RUBIN Thinks Romney Campaign Is Floundering!]
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:47:27 PM · 24 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to MNJohnnie
your real agenda here Obot.

I’ll put my decade’s tenure here (and my reputation with JimRob) on the line any time at all, at your convenience.

Whenever you’re ready, son.
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Boston Molasses [Even JENNIFER RUBIN Thinks Romney Campaign Is Floundering!]
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:41:42 PM · 21 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to MNJohnnie; Jim Robinson
Devoted Obama sycophant Kent

You know where to send any/all evidence in support of that claim, son.

Whenever you’ve got the time.
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Boston Molasses [Even JENNIFER RUBIN Thinks Romney Campaign Is Floundering!]
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:31:09 PM · 15 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Lazamataz
Rubin has been single-mindedly (read: fanatically) championing Mitt Romney for the past six years, now.

“Obama-licking sycophant.” Please.
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Boston Molasses [Even JENNIFER RUBIN Thinks Romney Campaign Is Floundering!]
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:24:25 PM · 8 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Uncle Miltie
Jennifer Rubin — who all but worships, grovelingly, at the sandaled feet of Mitt Romney — is now part of “the 0bama Team?” Really?

Really — ?!?

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Boston Molasses [Even JENNIFER RUBIN Thinks Romney Campaign Is Floundering!]
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:16:37 PM · 1 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Devoted sycophant Rubin lobbed unceremoniously underneath the bus in 4... 3... 2...
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Ex-WWE Diva Tammy Sytch Arrested 3 Times in 3 Days
Friday, September 14, 2012 6:27:24 PM · 7 of 13
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to EveningStar
Anticipating the inevitable cry for a picture:

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Obama Attends Ceremony Marking Return Of Bodies Of U.S. Personnel Killed In Libya
Friday, September 14, 2012 5:41:20 PM · 8 of 29
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Lmo56
Hopefully, he at least had enough sensitivity and taste not to openly shrill “ULULULULULULULULUL — !!!” as the coffins hit the tarmac.
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WashPost On Faith Contributor: It’s ‘Extreme’ to Expect Extremist Muslims to Forsake Extremism [!!!]
Friday, September 14, 2012 5:38:27 PM · 1 of 18
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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MSNBC’s Dyson: ‘All Hate Ain’t Equal’; ‘Horrible’ Americans Have ‘Fomented Hostility Toward Muslims’
Friday, September 14, 2012 5:23:00 PM · 39 of 56
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to jpsb
I screwed up, please forgive me.

Done, and done. ;)
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MSNBC’s Dyson: ‘All Hate Ain’t Equal’; ‘Horrible’ Americans Have ‘Fomented Hostility Toward Muslims’
Friday, September 14, 2012 5:10:06 PM · 28 of 56
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to jpsb
Why give Marxists hits on a conservative web site?

Unfamiliar with NewsBusters and/or its mission? “Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias.”

The work they’re doing is absolutely vital.
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MSNBC’s Dyson: ‘All Hate Ain’t Equal’; ‘Horrible’ Americans Have ‘Fomented Hostility Toward Muslims’
Friday, September 14, 2012 5:05:16 PM · 22 of 56
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to SECURE AMERICA
and if they ever got control it is morons like [Dyson] that they would behead first.

So the glass is half-FULL, then! ;)
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MSNBC’s Dyson: ‘All Hate Ain’t Equal’; ‘Horrible’ Americans Have ‘Fomented Hostility Toward Muslims’
Friday, September 14, 2012 5:00:02 PM · 8 of 56
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to bigbob
All in favor or cranking up the fomentation, say Aye!

Moved and seconded!
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MSNBC’s Dyson: ‘All Hate Ain’t Equal’; ‘Horrible’ Americans Have ‘Fomented Hostility Toward Muslims’
Friday, September 14, 2012 4:58:06 PM · 5 of 56
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Fledermaus

OH NOES!!! Did I just hated...?!? ;)
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MSNBC’s Dyson: ‘All Hate Ain’t Equal’; ‘Horrible’ Americans Have ‘Fomented Hostility Toward Muslims’
Friday, September 14, 2012 4:54:37 PM · 1 of 56
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Full title MSNBC Contributor Dyson: ‘All Hate Ain’t Equal’; ‘Horrible’ Americans Have ‘Fomented... Hostility Toward Muslims’ abbreviated due to excessive length.

VIDEO at link.
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Mitt Romney denounces anti-Muslim film
Friday, September 14, 2012 2:55:43 PM · 64 of 93
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to JediJones
Why can’t he learn how to throw the media’s questions back in their faces the way that Newt Gingrich does?

Newt’s instinctive, reflexive response isn’t to flinchingly placate the far left, whenever confronted.
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Romney: Obama ‘exudes an air of likability and friendliness’
Friday, September 14, 2012 2:46:40 PM · 29 of 78
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Tennessee Nana
Romney: Obama ‘exudes an air of likability and friendliness’

McCain tells voters: We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House (2008 FLASHBACK)

McCain 2.0
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Mitt Romney denounces anti-Muslim film
Friday, September 14, 2012 2:39:46 PM · 35 of 93
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to GeronL
The ONLY proper response to Islamic rage monkey tantruming, whether here or abroad:

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Mitt Romney denounces anti-Muslim film
Friday, September 14, 2012 2:35:52 PM · 21 of 93
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to ilovesarah2012
Mitt Romney denounced an anti-Muslim film

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Deputies Called To Home Of Filmmaker Of Mohammed Movie [VIDEO]
Friday, September 14, 2012 2:30:12 PM · 20 of 31
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to xzins
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Chris Matthews waiting for Mitt Romney to denounce anti-Muslim film
Friday, September 14, 2012 2:28:46 PM · 54 of 63
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to MCH
Hey, Chrissie... I’ll “denounce” something, if you’d like:

There. Happy...?
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Deputies Called To Home Of Filmmaker Of Mohammed Movie [VIDEO]
Friday, September 14, 2012 2:10:14 PM · 9 of 31
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to GeronL
Next time Hollyweird puts out an anti-Christian film

So... five minutes from now, in other words? ;)
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Trump: If Republicans ‘don’t get tough, they’re not going to win this election’
Friday, September 14, 2012 1:59:46 PM · 135 of 139
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Arrowhead1952
I still think easyrighter is pissant as a retread.

I originally read this as “pissant as a retard”... which still makes sense, actually. ;)
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Deputies Called To Home Of Filmmaker Of Mohammed Movie [VIDEO]
Friday, September 14, 2012 1:57:48 PM · 1 of 31
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
VIDEO at link, above.
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Trump: If Republicans ‘don’t get tough, they’re not going to win this election’
Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09:07 AM · 128 of 139
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Arrowhead1952; TheOldLady; darkwing104
Palin denies withholding support for Romney

Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07:57 PM · 7 of 94

easyrighter to mnehring

Now that she is rich she should run for Governor of Alaska. She owes it to them to actually work for a full erm.

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Cops: Naked, Bloody Man Gnawed On Woman’s Head During Wild Neighborhood Rampage
Friday, September 14, 2012 9:03:11 AM · 52 of 57
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Mr. Silverback
If only he had had something sequined...

As I was telling young Robin during our regularly scheduled Waxing the Bat-Pole regimen down in the Bat-Cave, just the other day: “Old chum, there are friends, and there are friends... and then there are Super-Friends, if you take my meaning.”

I like to think he heard me, over the sounds of his own broken, desolate sobbing. ;)
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What Romney Should Have Said
Thursday, September 13, 2012 6:04:44 PM · 14 of 36
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to freedumb2003
(may he rot in hell in a pig skin forever)

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What Romney Should Have Said
Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:34:55 PM · 6 of 36
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to freedumb2003
“Under my administration, islam will be considered an ideology and not a religion. All funding, special permits and other considerations given to real religions will be forthwith ended.

“Likewise, islam will be considered to be an anti-American sect, like Nazis and the KKK and will be watched very closely.”

Had Romney actually stated this, I would have instantly become a louder, more tireless Team Mittens shill than Jennifer Rubin and Ann Coulter combined.
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Woman discovers old boyfriend living in heating duct in her attic
Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:00:51 PM · 19 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to nickcarraway
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Cops: Naked, Bloody Man Gnawed On Woman’s Head During Wild Neighborhood Rampage
Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:58:27 PM · 14 of 57
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Free ThinkerNY; Mr. Silverback; martin_fierro; Slings and Arrows; TheOldLady
State Police say Ciminio then tried to break into a home, but was unsuccessful. Police say Ciminio then took off his underwear

Ah! Cunning criminal super-genius! “Yes! Yes! It’s this binding, accursed undergarment which thwarts me — !!!” ;)
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Far Left Loons Try to Stop Keystone Pipeline By Chaining Themselves to Equipment Not Being Used
Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:35:50 AM · 1 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
VIDEO at link.

Full Title FAIL… Far Left Loons Try to Stop Keystone Pipeline – By Chaining Themselves to Digging Equipment That Is Not Being Used abbreviated, due to excessive length.
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Gay [North Dakota State College of Sciences] football player says kiss got him booted
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:44:39 PM · 41 of 42
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Mr. Silverback
OMG!!! You’re back! You’re BACK — !!!

[::promptly strips down to sequined g-string and tassels::]

Missed me...? ;)
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Argument over pork steak leads to fatal shooting
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:31:50 PM · 4 of 39
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to GSWarrior
John Cunningham of Jennings, MO: the picky eater in question.

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VIDEO: Man builds box tower as apology to cat
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:50:24 PM · 2 of 16
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to mom4kittys
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Crisis of the Left: California Democrats Expunge Any Mention of Israel from Platform
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:36:48 PM · 4 of 14
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to 17th Miss Regt
Maybe they’re actually gullible enough for us to con ‘em into referring to their platform, grandiosely, as “California’s Final Solution.” ;)
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Crisis of the Left: California Democrats Expunge Any Mention of Israel from Platform
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:31:43 PM · 2 of 14
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to joinedafterattack
The party of Cynthia “JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!” McKinney strikes again.
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Rabid beaver chases children in Fairfax; 2nd attack in a week
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:26:39 PM · 18 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to I see my hands
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MSNBC Host: Who’s More Dangerous, The Supreme Leader of Tehran or Netanyahu? (Video)
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:08:23 PM · 5 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to katana
Depends on whose side you’re on, Israel or Iran? If it’s the latter I’d have to say Bibi is more “dangerous”, and thank G*d for that.

[::INSERT THUNDEROUS STANDING OVATION HERE::]
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Rabid beaver chases children in Fairfax; 2nd attack in a week
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:57:40 PM · 4 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Red Badger
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I wonder who Christopher Buckley will endorse for President this year
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:55:51 PM · 3 of 26
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to lowbridge
... or David “I Heart Obama’s Pants Crease!” Brooks?

... or Peggy “Palin Derangement Syndrome” Noonan?
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MSNBC Host: Who’s More Dangerous, The Supreme Leader of Tehran or Netanyahu? (Video)
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:53:16 PM · 1 of 30
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The party of Cynthia “JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!” McKinney strikes again.
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Audio: Press caught on open mic coordinating Egypt/Libya questions for Romney?
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:32:55 PM · 6 of 15
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to SeekAndFind
For consideration: at what point does the GOP’s continued abetment of the MSM’s calculated treacheries become, in and of itself, an unforced error (at best), or craven complicity in their own eventual defeat (at worst)?

CBS reporter(s) have been positively identified, on audio, as attempting to coolly manipulate the outcome of a national election. Both the Romney campaign and the GOP should immediately institute a full and thorough ban of any/all contact with said network — including any debate(s) they might happen to sponsor — all the way through Election Day.

Anything less serves as knowing and de facto condoning of their actions, to greater or lesser degree.
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Don’t Politicize Embassy Attacks (former McCain Chief-of-Staff attacks Romney)
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:27:53 PM · 68 of 85
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Tublecane
Reagan didn’t go blowing up mosques after Beruit.

Horace, to the young Piso: “Bonus dormitat Homerus.”
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Obama: Romney shoots first, aims later
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:18:39 PM · 3 of 64
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to Sub-Driver

Don’t you have some savage, Fred Flintstone-ized sub-cretin to bow and scrape before, Sotero...?
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Press Coordinates Question to Ask Romney (At what point does this idiocy become a crime?)
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:09:05 PM · 12 of 27
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to rrdog
At what point does this idiocy become a crime?

More correctly: at what point does the GOP’s craven and continued abetment of the MSM’s calculated treacheries become, in and of itself, a crime?

CBS reporter(s) have been positively identified, on audio, as attempting to coolly manipulate the outcome of a national election. Both the Romney campaign and the GOP should immediately institute a full and thorough ban of any/all contact with said network — including any debate(s) they might happen to sponsor — all the way through Election Day.

Anything less serves as knowing and de facto condoning of their actions, either to greater or lesser degree.
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Don’t Politicize Embassy Attacks (former McCain Chief-of-Staff attacks Romney)
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:01:02 PM · 53 of 85
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to dfwgator
STFU McCain. You played nice in 2008 and where did it get you?

McCain tells voters: We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House (2008 FLASHBACK)

Let no FReeper ever, ever forget that the craven CINO faction of the GOP-e — via the knowing agency of their chosen fair-haired traitor, “Lefty” McCain — was solely and irrefutably responsible for throwing the ‘08 election in favor of The Won.
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Don’t Politicize Embassy Attacks (former McCain Chief-of-Staff attacks Romney)
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:53:34 PM · 42 of 85
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to cripplecreek; TheOldLady; Tennessee Nana
(former McCain Chief-of-Staff attacks Romney)

CINO Steel Cage Death Match!

Two CINOs Enter!

Only One CINO LEAVES — !!!
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Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead,- Libyan security told mob where Ambassador was
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:49:02 PM · 3 of 17
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to InvisibleChurch

Prime location for a new parking lot.
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ISLAMISTS DRAG DEAD BODY OF US AMBASSADOR THROUGH THE STREETS OF BENGHAZI! (Updated)
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:31:43 PM · 207 of 275
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to American Constitutionalist
“(PBUH) P!ss be upon him.”

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ISLAMISTS DRAG DEAD BODY OF US AMBASSADOR THROUGH THE STREETS OF BENGHAZI! (Updated)
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:21:16 PM · 195 of 275
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle to rurgan


32 posted on 09/17/2012 9:57:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
There is always infighting among campaigns on what to say and what to do, so in the case of all these articles it the truth. BUT, there is infighting in Obummer’s campaign as well.

The motives of these articles is very dubious in order too ignore the happenings in the Middle-East. Classic derision as well as deflectable propaganda. Romney's counter should be the press is not objective as well as have a fear of the truth, put those useful idiots on the defensive.

33 posted on 09/17/2012 9:58:45 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Don't tell me what I've posted, son. Tell the man with the Ban Hammer.

Be specific.

34 posted on 09/17/2012 9:59:01 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: North Coast Conservative

B-I-N-G-O-!


35 posted on 09/17/2012 10:24:16 AM PDT by cranked
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
You spend 100% of your time aggressively trash talking Romney. You spend 100% of your time aggressively attacking anyone who present data challenging your emotion based opinions of Romney

You throw out flame words like “Shill” “Sycophant” at anyone who challenges your emotional attacks on Romney

You spend 0% of your time attacking Obama

Romney or Obama will be the next President. You have the the option to remain silent rather the feverishly trash talking Romney. You do not choose that, you instead aggressively search for excuses to attack Romney. Spending 100% of your time aggressively trash talking Romney does one thing, help the Obama camp.

It may not be the intent of your postings to be an active campaign agent for Obama, it is the result

36 posted on 09/17/2012 10:29:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well let’s examine the situation the sitting President is at mid 40’s in the polls and historically 70-80% of undecideds vote for thechallengeer.

The ME is exploding and the Obamedia is looking for some way to deflect. Why should Romney/Ryan give them a target?

The enemy is self immolating currently stay uut of the way.


37 posted on 09/17/2012 10:34:57 AM PDT by Leto
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To: MNJohnnie
Evidently, you can (so you say) easily prove me an Obama-loving troll.

Very well, then: do so, or stop wasting my time.

Either you can, or you cannot.

I know which way I'm betting.

38 posted on 09/17/2012 10:35:48 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I send you 2 pages of text outlining the flaws in your posting you respond in 1 minute 28 seconds. You did not even bother to take the time to read the point made to you.

Spare us the hypocrisy of pretending you are even BOTHERING to read anything that challenge you emotion based opinions Kent.


39 posted on 09/17/2012 10:45:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Don't tell me what I've posted, son. Tell the man with the Ban Hammer.

Cold, hard, non-"emotion based" l-o-g-i-c tells us that you're flinging your accusations in the wrong direction. I'm not JimRob.

40 posted on 09/17/2012 10:49:17 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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