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US declassifies Cold War nuclear plan
The Times of India ^ | Tuesday, September 18, 2012 | IANS

Posted on 09/17/2012 8:44:07 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Washington: The US National Security Archive has fully declassified the most controversial nuclear policy document of the Cold War, the Presidential Directive 59 (PD-59) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Presidential-Directive-59 , which focused on a possible nuclear war with the Soviet Union.

The full text of the document, available on the US National Security Archive page at George Washington University's website, provides insights about the thinking of key US officials about the state of nuclear planning and the possible progression of events should war break out.

In a surprising reverse from previous policies, PD-59 called for pre-planned nuclear strike options and capabilities for rapid development of target plans against such key target categories as "military and control targets," including nuclear forces, command and control, stationary and mobile military forces, and industrial facilities that supported the military.

A key element of PD-59 was to use high-tech intelligence to find nuclear weapons targets, strike them with "pinpoint" precision, and then assess the damage.

The architects of PD-59 envisioned the possibility of protracted nuclear war with the Soviet Union that avoided escalation to all-out conflict.

The archive's annotation emphasises the fact that the US nuclear doctrine has not been altered much since PD-59 became effective, and "while President Obama has set a nuclear-free world as a policy goal, it is unlikely that nuclear planning arrangements will change significantly in the foreseeable future".

Highly classified for decades, PD-59 was signed in July 1980 by President Jimmy Carter "during a period of heightened Cold War tensions due to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, greater instability in the Middle East, and earlier strains over China policy, human rights, the Horn of Africa, and Euromissiles".


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1 posted on 09/17/2012 8:44:13 PM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

Is there nothing Obama won’t disclose to our enemies?


2 posted on 09/17/2012 8:48:55 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1337 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Jyotishi

Looks like Obama’s “flexibility” to former KGB Boss Putin is coming a little early - - - .


3 posted on 09/17/2012 8:48:56 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Jyotishi

Not to sound like a queer, but in nuclear war a “diversity” of capabilities is a good thing.


4 posted on 09/17/2012 8:50:12 PM PDT by TBall
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To: Graewoulf

Iran needs a read on our intentions and capabilities.

Israel needs a warning shot.


5 posted on 09/17/2012 8:50:12 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1337 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Jyotishi
Must be just me. I see nothing here that the Soviets would not have figured out for themselves at the time. BFD.
6 posted on 09/17/2012 8:51:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: null and void

We never really left the cold war, and the world is teetering on the edge of a big hot one. I see this disclosure of sensitive military information and tactics as treasonous.


7 posted on 09/17/2012 8:53:06 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Jyotishi

Is he also selling plans for the KH-9/11/12 systems to Iran? Like he gave them that drone. How can people not see this?


8 posted on 09/17/2012 8:54:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Jyotishi

Back when men were men.


9 posted on 09/17/2012 8:57:12 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Jyotishi

Those documents are here:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nukevault/ebb390/

In looking at them, it seems Carter made a real mess of things.


10 posted on 09/17/2012 8:59:59 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Jyotishi

1980 isn’t exactly ancient history.


11 posted on 09/17/2012 9:00:02 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: Jyotishi
But nothing pertaining to Obama’s past gets “declassified”.
12 posted on 09/17/2012 9:01:29 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: hinckley buzzard

But releasing this info. takes more effort than not releasing it, so.. What’s the f’ing point other than to enlighten Iran or other countries?


13 posted on 09/17/2012 9:02:25 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: SpaceBar
Poison Photo-Drop .. decision to release photographs .. will imperil nation .. its defenders.
Tue May 12 09:52:58 2009 · 13 of 21
null and void to Sergeant Tim

Before he is done I fully expect him to release the names, addresses and phone numbers of anyone anywhere in the world who has ever provided any information to agency workers.

The damage to US intel will last multiple generations.


14 posted on 09/17/2012 9:03:19 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1337 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Jyotishi

The main document is here:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nukevault/ebb390/docs/10-24-80 nuclear weapons employment policy.pdf

At least they redacted the actual target list.


15 posted on 09/17/2012 9:04:27 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: ASA Vet; Grampa Dave; LonePalm

Breech........ping


16 posted on 09/17/2012 9:06:38 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (49 days and a wake up.)
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To: Jyotishi
The only people who didn't know the contents of this are the American People. The USSR was always MUCH better at turning and recruiting Humint. Witness the current squatter in the WH.

The Idea of the ineffable joys of Communism has been a constant in academia and among the the Special Elite for 120 years. It's easy to convince an idiot who already believes that everyone should have an atomic bomb to hand over some minor construction details. The only people who don't deserve this data are the Proles under the direct control of Democrats.

17 posted on 09/17/2012 9:07:50 PM PDT by jonascord (DC told them to is)
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To: jonascord

Which makes me think of Jonathan Pollard for some reason. Jonathan Pollard and the Blind Sheikh. Interesting.


18 posted on 09/17/2012 9:10:28 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: null and void

“Is there nothing Obama won’t disclose to our enemies?”

Most classified documents have mandatory declassification dates. This would have been applied when the document was prepared, with no input from the current president.


19 posted on 09/17/2012 9:12:59 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: null and void; SpaceBar; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Hussein probably figures that he’ll lose in November and will try to do as much as damage to the US as possible.


20 posted on 09/17/2012 9:19:45 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Cementjungle

Thanks for the actual link. Jimmah was, you know, a nuclear engineer, after all...


21 posted on 09/17/2012 9:24:59 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Jyotishi
Putin praises Cold War moles for stealing U.S. nuclear secrets
Reuters ^ | Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:04pm EST | Steve Gutterman

Vladimir Putin praised Cold War-era scientists on Thursday for stealing U.S. nuclear secrets so that United States would not be the world's sole atomic power, in comments reflecting his vision of Russia as a counterweight to U.S. power.

Spies with suitcases full of data helped the Soviet Union build its atomic bomb, he told military commanders.

"You know, when the States already had nuclear weapons and the Soviet Union was only building them, we got a significant amount of information through Soviet foreign intelligence channels," Putin said, according to state-run Itar-Tass.

"The were carrying the information away not on microfilm but literally in suitcases. Suitcases!"

Putin's remarks referred to the dawn of the Cold War more than half a century ago, but they echoed a message he has made loud and clear more recently: that the United States needs to be restrained, and Russia is the country to do it. …

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com

22 posted on 09/17/2012 9:26:02 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Jyotishi
Yeah?

You think it will improve after the election?

On Dec 21, 2012, Obama will have had a little over a month to stew in his humiliating, crushing and unexpected defeat at the hands of the American people.

He’ll still be Commander in Chief.

He’ll still have the nuclear ‘football’. Just sitting there. Staring at him. Taunting him. Daring him. Double-eaten-dog daring him...

23 posted on 09/17/2012 9:26:17 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1337 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Jyotishi
Open Mic Catches Obama Asking Medvedev for Space on Missile Defense
March 26, 2012

"In a private conversation about the planned U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe, President Barack Obama asked outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for space on the issue.

This is my last election,” Obama told Medvedev. “After my election I have more flexibility.”

“I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Medvedev said, referring to incoming President Vladimir Putin."

http://fox8.com/2012/03/26/open-mic-catches-obama-asking-medvedev-for-space-on-missile-defense/
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Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:

Obama: “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space.”

Medvedev: “Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ...”

Obama: “This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility.”

Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”

“This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.” That statement tells us much about the president’s mindset.

The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration. Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president’s comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.

In addition, there is the phrase “on all these issues,” implying more is at stake than just missile defense.”

Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn’t be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/

24 posted on 09/17/2012 9:26:36 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Jyotishi
Obama To Betray Missile Defense Secrets To Moscow
Investor's Business Daily ^ | January 9, 2012 | IBD staff

Appeasement: From ObamaCare to recess appointments, honoring the Constitution has not been an administration hallmark. But when it comes to betraying secrets to mollify the Russians, it becomes a document the president hides behind.

It was bad enough that the 2012 defense authorization bill signed by President Obama set America on a downward spiral of military mediocrity.

He also issued a signing statement, something he once opposed, saying that language in the bill aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 — linchpin of our missile defense — might impinge on his constitutional foreign-policy authority.

Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they'd be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.

The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...

25 posted on 09/17/2012 9:27:11 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Jyotishi
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26 posted on 09/17/2012 9:27:58 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Jyotishi
I would like to very much know if, buried in the weasel wording of PD-59 is the intent for "Launch On Warning."

This means that, if there is sufficient evidence that the USSR is planning to attack, we Hit the Button. Another thing is that the the Missile Gap that Kennedy won the '60 election with didn't exist.

In fact, when Monster McNamara actually asked to see the true targeting intelligence, he went pale when he found that the Pentagon was having to target small town police stations, just to use all the available delivery systems and warheads.

The Cuban Crisis was because while Khrushchev KNEW he had a pair of deuces to a Spade Royal Flush, he didn't think Kennedy the Goat had the moral courage to actually pull the trigger.

Read "A Country Made by War" by Geoffrey Perret.

27 posted on 09/17/2012 9:31:40 PM PDT by jonascord (DC told them to is)
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To: null and void
He’ll still have the nuclear ‘football’. Just sitting there. Staring at him. Taunting him. Daring him. Double-eaten-dog daring him...That was pretty good. I got a chill reading that.
28 posted on 09/17/2012 9:36:58 PM PDT by America_Right (Remember, Republicans have a lot more in common with Democrats than they do with Tea Partiers.)
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To: Jyotishi

LARIAT ADVANCE ! ! !

D Co, 1/11 ACR, 2nd Platoon. Delta 21 on the move.

The balloon never went up. Thank You Jehovah !!!


29 posted on 09/17/2012 9:42:12 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Jyotishi
Oh for goodness sake. We had access to this as missileers and it was REALLY sensitive stuff.

What are they going to do next? Release copies of the Reserve Force Target List (RFTL)?

30 posted on 09/17/2012 9:42:27 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: America_Right

So did I when I first thought of it and posted a version of it: Nov 26 2011.


31 posted on 09/17/2012 9:47:56 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1337 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Jyotishi
As I recall, Carter re-targeted many U.S. missiles away from Soviet population centers and focused them on command and control bunkers and the shelters of the Soviet hierarchy. This was done in part in a fit of anger over the invasion of Afghanistan when Carter realized his Russian pals were playing him for a dupe. The problem with knocking out c & c sites in the first exchange was that their might not be a Soviet left alive who was senior enough to stop the slaughter.
32 posted on 09/17/2012 9:49:11 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: America_Right; null and void

>> He’ll still have the nuclear ‘football’. Just sitting
>> there. Staring at him. Taunting him. Daring him. Double-
>> eaten-dog daring him...

> That was pretty good. I got a chill reading that.

Romney needs to run an ad based on that scary scenario, something like: He released our nuclear secrets to the world today, will he give our nuclear weapons to our enemies tomorrow? (Requires heavy rewrite.)


33 posted on 09/17/2012 10:00:44 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: jonascord

Robert McNamara “Secretary of Defense”

Date of Birth Date of Death
(June 9, 1916 – July 6, 2009)

He was Secretary of Defense for John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson during the Vietnam War.

That evil man was of no morality, nor bravery, nor honor, nor moral direction, nor even understanding of right and wrong, caused the death of many of those names on the Black Wall of Granite at the Vietnam Memorial.

He should have been at that wall every day on his knees begging forgiveness. He did not.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 10:40:40 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: null and void

Before he is done I fully expect him to release the names, addresses and phone numbers of anyone anywhere in the world who has ever provided any information to agency workers.

IS OBastard inspired by the treasonous acts of Philip Agee (may that mf burn in Hell for all Eternity)?


35 posted on 09/17/2012 10:57:35 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: Jyotishi

THe National Security Archives started out (and might still be) a leftist effort to get U.S. intelligence and strategic military planning secrets declassified (to help the Communists, much as Bill Arkin of the Institute for Policy Studies did in his exposes).

George Washington Un. agreed to house their collection in their Library. The US govt had nothing to do with this arrangement.

The NSArchives used Freedom of Information requests to obtain most of these items and possibly searched the official National Archives for additional materials (which would then have to be declassified by a Mandatory Review process).

Let’s say that this NSA saved the Soviet Union a lot of money in obtaining US military secrets and plans.


36 posted on 09/18/2012 12:35:39 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Graewoulf

Remember the picture of Russian ships at the Democrat convention? Well, in the sky above them - as part of the ‘tribute montage - were Turkish fighter jets. I think the ‘tribute’ to American vets was a raised third finger, Check it out:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/17/fighter-jets-in-democratic-conventions-military-montage-were-turkish-not-american/


37 posted on 09/18/2012 1:25:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (first they came for those clinging to their guns and religion, and I did not speak out....)
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To: OldMissileer

I’m with you. Releasing what amounts to a single integrated operational plan for the employment of nuclear weapons will do exceptionally grave damage to our national security. It is impossible to imagine any other outcome. As limited as Obama’s understanding of the military may be, even he must know the consequences of his reckless act.


38 posted on 09/18/2012 1:44:15 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: GOPJ
Remember the picture of Russian ships at the Democrat convention?

And at the '08 convention they had huge red (communist?) stars prominently displayed. Clearly meant to send a signal.


39 posted on 09/18/2012 2:58:19 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GOPJ
Remember the picture of Russian ships at the Democrat convention?

Obama's "Uncle Frank" (his communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis) was a diehard supporter of the Soviet Union.


Frank Marshall Davis

From Accuracy In Media | AIM.ORG

Obama’s Red Mentor Praised Red Army
AIM Report | By Cliff Kincaid | April 30, 2008

Barack Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA (CPUSA), wrote a poem dedicated to the Soviet Red Army. “Smash on, victory-eating Red Army,” he declared. He also wrote poems attacking traditional Christianity and the work of Christian missionaries.

The “Red Army” poem goes beyond hoping for the communists to beat the Nazis in World War II and hails the Soviet revolution. It says:

Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/obamas-red-mentor-praised-red-army/

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Obama’s Communist Mentor
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 18, 2008

excerpt...

"through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his 'poetry' and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just 'Frank.'

The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations."

Frank Chapman, a CPUSA supporter, has written a letter to the party newspaper hailing the Illinois senator's victory in the Iowa caucuses:

"Obama’s victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle. Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary 'mole,' not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through."
-People's Weekly World (PWW), official newspaper of the Communist Party, USA
http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/12302/1/405
(Note: article has since been pulled from the Communist Party USA/Peoples Weekly World/PWW website)

AIM article: Obama’s Communist Mentor
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

40 posted on 09/18/2012 3:01:39 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Red stars...just like the one Bill Ayers used to wear on that infamous black shirt...


41 posted on 09/18/2012 3:02:28 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Graewoulf; All
From "45 Communist Goals", as per "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

'Goals' 4-45 can be found here:
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

42 posted on 09/18/2012 3:06:10 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: who knows what evil?
Red stars...just like the one Bill Ayers used to wear on that infamous black shirt...

At least Ayers makes no bones about what he is. Yet, still, simpletons like Sean Hannity never referred to him or the Weather Underground as being communist. He only described them as "domestic terrorists". Bad enough, you would think, but it misses a large part of what was happening then, and today. The WU openly and proudly described themselves as 'communist revolutionaries'. To this day, Ayers boasts that he's a communist, and an anarchist.

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Bill Ayers: "I considered myself partly an anarchist then and I consider myself partly an anarchist now. I mean, I'm as much an anarchist as I am a Marxist which is to say I find a lot of the ideas in anarchism appealing."
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"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."
--B.H. Obama

YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
(note the red communist star on his shirt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY

43 posted on 09/18/2012 3:33:43 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: who knows what evil?
From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

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From American Thinker, September 16, 2008
Article: Obama's Foul Weather Friends
By Scott Swett and Roger Canfield

"As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who [Bernardine] Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he 'left the room to cry.' "

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html

44 posted on 09/18/2012 3:36:26 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: cpdiii

The claim is that McNamara vetoed Operation Northwoods. I have always wondered if that is true.

There was a discussion with Kennedy in a meeting and Kennedy referenced the plan but said we are not talking about military options. However, did McNamara approve it??

The Joint Chiefs of Staff approved it.


45 posted on 09/18/2012 5:21:34 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

btw, David Talbot claims that McNamara said this when asked about Operation Northwoods

“”I have absolutely zero recollection of it. But I sure as hell would have rejected it.... I really can’t believe that anyone was proposing such provocative acts in Miami. How stupid!”

I don’t believe it. A plan such as that would be something you would remember ...


46 posted on 09/18/2012 5:32:20 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: null and void
We already know a lot about this.

At that time the CIA developed their intelligence and made their policy recommendations, but a lot of people had doubts about that.

So, CIA Team B was organized to examine all the classified documentation and possibly make different recommendations. GHW Bush was CIA director. Gerald Ford replaced SecDef Bill Clements with Don Rumsfeld and Rumsfeld brought Paul Wolfowitz on as his top analyst. Later, Wolfowitz would be Rumsfeld's deputy under GW Bush, after being Cheney's policy undersecretary under GHW Bush.

All of the actions regarding the build up of our nuke deterrence that we credited to Reagan had been predetermined while Ford was the prez.

Both PD-59 and Reagan's build up were predicated on CIA Team B's finding that the Soviets thought that they could win a nuke war. Of course nobody knows for certain what the Soviets thought at the time.

47 posted on 09/18/2012 7:03:18 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Fred Hayek
IS OBastard inspired by the treasonous acts of Philip Agee (may that mf burn in Hell for all Eternity)?

I think more likely by the Prince of Lies.

48 posted on 09/18/2012 7:21:35 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1338 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: ETL

Obama’s not stupid. What if the red stars were intentional - a message to his handlers? Red stars were easy to overlook - could have meant anything. But not in combination with Islamic jets and Russian ships.

The picture at the DNC Convention was a montage.

Turkish planes were NOT flying over Russian ships... the picture was cobble together from at least two pictures. Liberals think Obama’s charming, sincere and stupid. They believe these were simple mistakes. Maybe the ships OR the jets or the red stars could have been a mistake - but not a three... Obama understands metaphors - he wrote poetry as a young man - visual metaphors are equally powerful...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/17/fighter-jets-in-democratic-conventions-military-montage-were-turkish-not-american/


49 posted on 09/18/2012 8:17:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (first they came for those clinging to their guns and religion, and I did not speak out....)
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To: GOPJ
The picture at the DNC Convention was a montage.

Montage (From Team America)

Today is approaching, to give it your best
You've got to reach your prime.
That's when you need to put yourself to the test
and show us a passage of time.

We're gonna need a montage.

Oh it takes a montage.
Show a lotta things, happening at once,
Remind everyone of what's goin' on.
With every shot show a little improvement,
to show it all would take too long.

That's called a montage.
Even Rocky had a montage.
in any sport, if you want to go
from just a beginner to a pro

You need a montage.

A simple little montage.

Always fade out in a montage.
If you fade out it seems like more time has passed in a montage.

50 posted on 09/18/2012 8:22:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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