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Tests only identify Zimmerman's DNA on handgun
AP ^ | 09/19/12 | Mike Schneider

Posted on 09/19/2012 8:30:22 AM PDT by sirchtruth

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Forensic tests made public Wednesday show that George Zimmerman's was the only DNA that could be identified on the grip of the gun used to fatally shoot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The results rule out Martin's DNA from being on the gun's grip. Zimmerman's DNA also was identified on the gun's holster, but no determination could be made as to whether Martin's DNA was on the gun's holster, according to the report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

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To: KansasGirl; txrangerette
I just went back and watched part of the interrogation video of Zimmerman. He claims that Martin had one hand on Zimmerman's nose and one on his mouth when Zimmerman shifted, exposing his gun as the jacket and shirt moved up on Zimmerman's right hip.

Per Zimmerman (and he re-enacts it), Martin slid his hand down Zimmerman's side, Zimmerman pinned it again Zimmerman's side with his elbow/upper arm. Zimmerman drew the gun and shot Martin.

Under the scenario he describes and demonstrates, Martin's DNA should not have been on the grip of Zimmerman's handgun.

You can watch the video here

21 posted on 09/19/2012 9:01:20 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: sirchtruth

Did they find Martin’s DNA on Zimmerman’s head where Martin was slamming said head into the pavement?


22 posted on 09/19/2012 9:03:40 AM PDT by donna (Chick-news: They report on what they love (Obama and movie stars and themselves).)
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To: carlo3b; KansasGirl

Exactly...they are jury tampering long before a jury is even in play.

They are probably hoping to so damn Zimmerman with this kind of meaningless stuff, that he will feel he has to plead guilty to a lesser charge than 2nd degree murder.

I get the impression Z believed T suddenly realized Z had a gun on him and he knew at that point it was either him or T, and he was able to get the gun and fire it before T could do anything about it. He did say that T said “you’re gonna die tonight” about the same time he realized his gun had been exposed.

IIRC, he also said T said something like, “you got me”, when he shot him. Then of course, T died.

The “no other dna on Z’s gun” thing is a total red herring.


23 posted on 09/19/2012 9:03:40 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: sirchtruth

My mistake — from here in the Orlando Slantinel:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-09-19/news/os-george-zimmerman-evidence-new-20120919_1_george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-cell-phone-records


24 posted on 09/19/2012 9:03:52 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Logical me
...was this info provided to the MSM just for the fun of it.

And to lead the public into believing something that doesn't matter an use it falsely as an "implication."

25 posted on 09/19/2012 9:04:22 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
IIRC, some FReepers have postulated that M had his hand(s) on the slide and the weapon did not cycle. That would explain the “as found” empty chamber.

Didn't know that DNA was present in fingerprints. Sure, if Trayvon had been scraped by the moving slide, you'd expect to see some DNA in the bits of skin - but there are lots of variables.

I'd like to see info on basic forensic work such as gunshot residue patterns, before they start discussing this CSI stuff.

26 posted on 09/19/2012 9:06:42 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Uncle Chip

Ok, thanks. I wonder why the AP didn’t include what Zimmerman supposedly said in their article? Maybe the information in the Orlando Sentinel is bogus?


27 posted on 09/19/2012 9:07:56 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
"IIRC, some FReepers have postulated that M had his hand(s) on the slide and the weapon did not cycle. That would explain the “as found” empty chamber."

You recall correctly. I believe there was also a bruise on GZ chest from the slide slamming back. That would also prohibit it from fully cycling and loading another round.

IMHO The lack of TM DNA on the grip or holster means little.

28 posted on 09/19/2012 9:09:58 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: sirchtruth

I have apparently missed the point of the story.

They found the owner of the weapon and holster’s DNA on the weapon and holster. The owner (GZ) said they were his and that he used them to shoot the attacker.

Did they check the gun and holster for Nancy Pelosi’s DNA too? What are they trying to tell us? That the attacker never touched the gun or the holster? Did someone suggest Martin had?


29 posted on 09/19/2012 9:15:19 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: sirchtruth

APObama and YahooObama are simply polluting the potential jury pool, or barring that, spinning up public outrage over Saint Skittles, with the end result being the Stand Your Ground Law and the Castle Doctrine get overturned, providing court precedent to get these laws overturned in other states and therefore gutting the 2nd Amendment without the mess of a Constitutional Convention.

And that’s all there ever is, or was, to this case.

If there are feral black race riots nationwide as a result of the trial, that’s a twofer.


30 posted on 09/19/2012 9:22:27 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: sirchtruth

It means your Saint George may be lying thjrough his white hispanic teeth.


31 posted on 09/19/2012 9:25:00 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Tenacious 1
That the attacker never touched the gun or the holster? Did someone suggest Martin had?

Apparently Z stated T "reached" for the gun according to the article from the OS. Link: Post #24

32 posted on 09/19/2012 9:25:00 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
It means your Saint George may be lying thjrough his white hispanic teeth.

Sounds like you and the AP love to stretch the bounds of reality by false implication to try to convince dolts Zimmerman is lying.

Not only does this NOT prove he's lying, it proves his account jives with the available evidence.

33 posted on 09/19/2012 9:31:59 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth

I also put it over here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2933343/posts?page=1#1


34 posted on 09/19/2012 9:36:18 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sirchtruth
The significance of all this is that when in a similar situation follow a simple rule. Do Not Speak To The Police. We have a right to remain silent, use it. As the card says, anything you say will be used against you in a court of law. This rule is at it's most useful when you are 100% innocent. Anything you say will only lessen your chances to be vindicated.
35 posted on 09/19/2012 9:40:37 AM PDT by gusty
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To: sirchtruth

Personally I don’t care about who did what to whom. I could care less if GZ is acquitted or convicted. Its no skin off my nose.

But I’m willing to let the case work its way through the system....like its supposed to.

I just like pulling the chains of some of yinz who seeingly automatically support the “white hispanic” because his “assailant” was a young black kid...and we all know they’re all hoodlums and dealers. (/s for the last half-sentence.)


36 posted on 09/19/2012 9:44:27 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: sirchtruth
Classic case of a straw man fallacy. They couldn't find TM’s DNA on the firearm, but there's no indication it should be there anyway.
37 posted on 09/19/2012 10:02:58 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Quit poking holes in the life raft!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
"Personally I don’t care about who did what to whom. I could care less if GZ is acquitted or convicted. Its no skin off my nose."--"I just like pulling the chains of some of yinz" You admit what we already know, you troll threads throughout FR, not with sincere posts or conservative purpose, but to bait, bomb throw, and inflame, to troll, to play with while "pulling the chains" of freepers.
38 posted on 09/19/2012 10:29:34 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Emperor Palpatine
"Personally I don’t care about who did what to whom. I could care less if GZ is acquitted or convicted. Its no skin off my nose."--"I just like pulling the chains of some of yinz"

You admit what we already know, you troll threads throughout FR, not with sincere posts or conservative purpose, but to bait, bomb throw, and inflame, to troll, to play with while "pulling the chains" of freepers.

39 posted on 09/19/2012 10:31:03 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Emperor Palpatine

The majority of the people on this site support Mr. Zimmerman because of the facts known. The skin color of either participant is irrelevant to most people here as it pertains to whether or not Mr. Zimmerman was justified in using lethal force against the deceased.

However, that is certainly not true of those in this country who are determined to curtail our rights one way or another, and in particular those who are obsessed with seeing Mr. Zimmerman found guilty of any possible charge that will stick. Those despicable people are all to eager to use “race” as a tool to “get their way”.


40 posted on 09/19/2012 10:31:09 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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