[BlackElk]

The day that the GOP turns its back on the babies in favor of $$$ issues is the day that the social issues conservatives should divorce the GOP and form a new party.

Debate THAT issue in four years and in every moment in between.

[GOPJ]

I know what dems are going to say on the issue of abortion - I know what we're going to say. We've been there - we've done that - we're right on the issue. They're wrong.

So what?

Being right hasn't changed the fact that abortions have been done in this country for almost half a century - and dems use the issue to put incompetents in office.

I've heard both sides. You have too... Tell me what you think will be accomplished by going at this again when we don't have the votes to do squat?

Freedom from gun control works for us - do you think some liberal moderator will focus on that issue? Dems believe in gun control as firmly as we believe abortion is murder. They will not give gun control one minute because it works against them and they don't have the votes.

Same spot we're in.

They're quietly working on gun control- we're quietly working to stop abortion. It can't JUST be an issue to keep our people from being elected.