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Nate Silver crying over Gallup polls showing Romney leading.
1 posted on 10/19/2012 7:34:30 PM PDT by radpolis
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To: radpolis

What do the hetero pollsters think?


2 posted on 10/19/2012 7:38:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: radpolis

He has a point. Gallup’s numbers are so far from everyone else that it’s difficult to believe. Hoping it’s true, but we’ll have to wait and see.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 7:38:51 PM PDT by MeanGreen2008
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I’m curious about the States which changed their electoral votes to reflect national popular vote and what impact this would have on Romney.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 7:46:38 PM PDT by soupbone1
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Other national polls now show a very slight lead for President Obama on average,

No actually they do not. They all show Romney leading. Some sligtjly, some seriously. Only the Media polls have any good news for Obama. Nate's problem is he wants to selectively cherry pick the polls that validate his personal political opinions. Basically any MEDIA poll should be thrown out right from the start. They are designed to drive headlines, not to find fact. Looking at the professional polling, Obama is in trouble. Nate want to ignore those polls to cling to the polling that tells him what he wants to hear. Hopefully this election will be the end of Nate Silver's media hyped reputation. He has gone WAY out on a limb here. If the professional polling is correct, and he is this far wrong, his career is over.

8 posted on 10/19/2012 7:47:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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The New York Times... Now why would I believe anything they say? Come to think of it, I don’t believe anything they say. They are nothing but liberal waste. As a matter of fact, I’m not believing anybody’s poll from now to Nov 6th. I will trust the anger that I feel instead. Screw the polls.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 7:54:25 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: radpolis
However, the poll’s results are deeply inconsistent with the results that other polling firms are showing in the presidential race, and the Gallup poll has a history of performing very poorly when that is the case.

Circular logic.

17 posted on 10/19/2012 7:54:58 PM PDT by matt1234 (As Obama sowed in the Arab Spring, so he is reaping in the Arab Fall.)
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To: radpolis

Nate Silver is wrong and Gallup is correct.

It predicted Obama’s win down to the final point on Oct 18th, 2008.

He can’t dismiss it simply because it shows a result he doesn’t like. I think Mitt Romney holds a very strong lead. Other pollsters just don’t want to come out and say it.

Every one knows Romney is going to win this election and it won’t be a close one at all.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 8:02:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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The poor communists. They just can’t get their heads around the fact that freedom lovers are rejecting them once again. LOL! They’ll get over it. There’s a “utopia” for them somewhere. It’s just not on THIS planet.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 8:02:55 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (This is America! Being dead is no excuse not to vote!!!)
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To: radpolis

With two exceptions, they’ve always picked the winner, back to FDR: http://www.gallup.com/poll/9442/election-polls-accuracy-record-presidential-elections.aspx


22 posted on 10/19/2012 8:03:37 PM PDT by bigbob
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Nate Silver ragging on Rasmussen, the most accurate pollster of 2008:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/27/1137007/-Nate-Silver-Nugget-Rasmussen-was-the-worst-of-the-lot


25 posted on 10/19/2012 8:10:11 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: radpolis
Nate Silver is deeply disappointed with the Gallup poll.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 8:11:18 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: radpolis

Polls aren’t the only measure of how a race is going. Look at other factors.

Suffolk polling pulled out of FL, VA, and NC a week or two ago. Romney has pulled resources out of NC.

State polls show a close race in traditionally Dem states like WI, PA, MI and IA. NH and OH also show close races. Romney is ahead in CO.

Romney is absolutely killing in traditionally conservative states, so it’s not hard to believe that nationally his numbers would be strong.

Maybe he’s not leading by 6 or 7 points nationally, but 3 to 4 points wouldn’t be hard to believe and that would be enough for him to win the electoral college, IMO.


29 posted on 10/19/2012 8:23:53 PM PDT by randita
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“However, the poll’s results are deeply inconsistent with the results that other polling firms are showing in the presidential race”

Maybe Nate forgot to read the recent UPI and KOS/PPP polls also showing a significant Romney lead.


35 posted on 10/19/2012 8:50:53 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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It is interesting that Gallup is so different than the others. I think it’s because they are not weighting their samples, but letting their likely voter screen drive the results. It seems many of the polls are weighting the samples. I think Rasmussen is weighting it +4 Dem.

One thing I don’t understand is the polls agree that Romney is winning among Independents, by 7 points or so. Whoever has done this in the past has won. Why are they thinking it will be different this time?


37 posted on 10/19/2012 8:55:46 PM PDT by TomEwall
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dang..the lib media going in on Gallup. I assume Gallup is gonna fall back in line soon.


38 posted on 10/19/2012 8:58:10 PM PDT by snarkytart
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I wonder if the Obama campaign is still sharing their internal polling with him


40 posted on 10/19/2012 9:11:43 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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