[goldstategop]

Ds are oversampled by 7+ and Obama is supposedly up by 5+. But he is still at 47% - bad news for an incumbent. He cannot get a majority no matter how much friendly pollsters “fix” it for him.

Its over.

[muawiyah]

A sample is what it is (although that doesn't matter since polling doesn't matter either) so it isn't like someone sits down and tries to call 7% too many Democrats.

The whole point of sampling is to achieve something reflective of the average opinion of a far larger group ~ and you attempt to do that with a random sample.

If you subsequently adjust your random sample to reflect what you think you want, it is no longer a random sample poll ~ it's just an auger ~ rather like the ones the Roman's looked at.

[muawiyah]

A sample is what it is (although that doesn't matter since polling doesn't matter either) so it isn't like someone sits down and tries to call 7% too many Democrats.

The whole point of sampling is to achieve something reflective of the average opinion of a far larger group ~ and you attempt to do that with a random sample.

If you subsequently adjust your random sample to reflect what you think you want, it is no longer a random sample poll ~ it's just an auger ~ rather like the ones the Roman's looked at.