Posted on 10/23/2012 4:31:30 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
Excellent point, cuban leaf. Your post was very insightful.
“...often times I thought Obama looked small and like the prototypical petty Liberal with his sarcastic remarks.”
Yep, he’s been hanging out with Jon Stewart and David Letterman too much.
I think the point is that Obama believes that killing the occasional bad guy with drones is a Mid East policy.
Obama actually doesn’t have a policy, or rather, he does (”privilege and encourage Islam”), but if he enunciated it, even the Dems might lose faith in him.
But I think Romney’s point is that random killings without anything else, without any plan or vision, will have no effect.
I noticed that. I saw those little beady eyes swinging back and forth and I also noticed that he never seemed to look at Romney, as if seeing Romney unnerved him. He also kept looking over his shoulder for something. Did they put the teleprompter back there?
I agree that killing the Islamics is the only way to get rid of them. But they have to be killed as part of a policy; that is, it has to be clear why they are being killed. Obama’s video-game approach just takes out an occasional islamist who gets bad press or makes him look bad, but does not address the real problem because to Obama the Islamist takeover isn’t a problem.
I noticed that Romney actually said the “I” word last night, Islamic, in reference to terrorist, which is something I’ve never heard Obama say.
I think Romney will kill plenty of Islamists, but he will have a policy and both they and the rest of the world will know why they are being killed. Obama does stealth killings that don’t give any kind of message at all.
-——I think the point is that Obama believes that killing the occasional bad guy with drones is a Mid East policy.——
The surgical drone strikes is war through peace. The thought that peace through attrition has a fallacy. For every leader killed there are five or ten eager to fill the vacated position. War by peace appeals to the leftist pacifists who feel vindicated in their pacifism by severely tying up our military while seeming to prosecute the war/peace.
Romney said killing will not get us out of the war and is wrong. The 5 or 10 ready to jump in vacated leadership must also be killed. Killing in large numbers is the only solution, the proper prosecution of th war.
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Wow, Romney winning both Gallup and Rasmussen -- you sound like a damned fool.
The Freetards went silent after the first debate and now back bleating like stuck sheep because you've just now realized Mitt the Mormon is the next President. For 8 years. And you all just can't stand the thought...lol...
I was never involved in ‘debateing’ when in High school or in college.
I was struck by the retorts from Obama, which were snarky & angry. It certainly was easy for an amatuer like me to tell when he was very angry. Jaw clenched differently—eyes flashing—nose flared slightly —”let me be clear” a mantra—and unwilling to wait his turn. With a Liberal moderator, he certainly didn’t have to worry about ‘getting his turn’.
I would like to see the numbers about how many times each one interrupted & how many minutes Obama got vs Romney.
Saying ‘You are just plain wrong’ over and over again didn’t seem like proper debate etiquette, nor anything very Presidential.
Obama was his old self, interrupting and showing disrespect.
Romney struck me as a person who knew he had an incompetant person on the carpet & he was giving the person a chance to bury themselves even deeper. Obama complied. Romney’s expressions were appropriate for the setting & the event, IMO.
Obama was showing his attitude that NO ONE can question his thoughts or actions.
Unfortunately for Obama & the USA, the volatile Middle East & other parts of the world which wish to see America destroyed saw clearly that Obama was on more than one apology tour & in the latest incident, Obama chose to let 4 Americans get killed, including an Ambassador, due to a total misread of who is ‘friendly’ and who is not. Not sending any help in a 6-7 hour period of the attack is just plain incompetant.
Apologies & inaction don’t show any level of strength to those who have been raised & trained to hate us and destroy us.
300 million Americans need to truly wake up & realize that radical Muslims cannot be dealt with across a diplomatic table. Nor can ‘intelligence’ be left to ‘eye in the sky’ surviellance. Boots on the ground make a huge difference. Perhaps Ambassador Stevens didn’t die in vain. Perhaps he will be the ‘canary in the coal mine’ who gets thru to the undecided voters & some of the Liberals who have been totally snookered by Obama & his minions.
I know for certain we don’t need another 4 years of ‘apology tours’.
Gee, maybe we should quit protecting them from each other.
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I think their fights with each other are none of our business.
Sorry that you are so angry. I said that my comments would not be popular, for a “damned fool” , I was darn right.
Do you consider yourself to be a “freetard”?
I am unfamiliar with the term.
Totally agree with that.
To add to it, targeted killing works in some cases to help win the overall conflict. “Cut the head off the snake” type stuff. But with Islam, it is only a way to ensure their propaganda campaigns recruit more snakes.
The crusaders had it right. Massive overwhelming and merciless force. The Jihadi war is based on the Koran, Allah, Mohammed and is, as they say, “To the death”.
When someone thinks or says that such people can be brought to reason, they are ignorant of history, the depth of the fanaticism involved, and has no place leading armies against such. Because their ‘war plan’ suffers category error. They are fighting the wrong ‘war’ in the wrong way.
Germany was fanatical. Japan was fanatical. But they could reason. And they did reason eventually. And it STILL took overwhelming force to bring’em to heel.
Muslims are MORE fanatical and base their fanaticism on Islam. Ergo, they cannot be reasoned with.
And 1000 plus years of history has completely proven that beyond legitimate arguement. As I said above, I’m not a Mitt fan. But neither do I believe him to be stupid or ignorant of history. IMO, he KNOWS what must be done. I just don’t know if he has the guts to do it.
The MSM was enamored with Obama’s “horses and bayonets” prepared line. But the little heralded deadly message was Romney’s “Attacking me is not a positive agenda” line.A very succinct way of reinforcing Romney’s latest message that his opponent has no plan for the nation other than getting reelected.That line alone underscored the difference between Romney’s presidential stage stature and Obama’s petulant undertones
Romney did exactly what he needed to do and that was to present himself as presidential before the American people
That’s the money line right there. That’s EXACTLY what Romney had to do last night.
Romney has been effective at being the challenger who is “disappointed” in the incumbent and offers a reasonable alternative.
Romney is not Newt. He is just not the guns blazing type no matter how much we want him to be.
The impatient and offended patriot in me wanted the same thing, for Romney to tear O a new one on Benghazi. However, what would it have gained?
But passing by it, after he got O to repeat “for the record” his ridiculous claim in the previous debate that he called it an act of terrorism whilst standing in the Rose Garden next to the lovely and gracious Hillary, Romney allows the acid that is the Benghazi fiasco to go on eating away at O through congressional hearings, the serious media (or what there is left of it), and the surrogates large and small that are out campaigning for him.
Meanwhile he opens a second and far more strategic front against O on the whole manner and philosophy of his foreign policy. In so doing Romney demonstrates who sees the big picture while leaving O to snark about this little thing and that, looking petty, small, and ill-tempered as he does so ... looking like the rotten troublemaker in the classroom who thinks he got away with something while the teacher and all the other kids just shake their heads, knowing that he will not be passing on to the next grade with the rest of the kids.
And—quite a few of them are trained with horses, even today.
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