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Alleged home invasion victim arrested on gun charge(LA)
bayoubuzz.com ^ | 22 October, 2012 | NA

Posted on 10/23/2012 6:38:07 AM PDT by marktwain

SHREVEPORT, LA (KSLA) -

Shreveport Police say they arrested a homeowner who exchanged gunfire with intruders Monday night because the homeowner illegally possessed his handgun.

Rafeal Sinville, 29, was booked on one count of being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm.

The arrest came after police responded about 9:35 p.m. Monday to a call of a home invasion at a home in the 2500 block of Dupont Street.

Authorities say the homeowner was inside his home, heard a knock at the door, and, when he opened it, found one man who was armed and another man trying to force their way in.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; home; la
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Everyone has the right to self defense. A felon still should be able to defend his home.
1 posted on 10/23/2012 6:38:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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If they can't be trusted with self defense, they should remain in prison. Self-defense is a God given right.

/johnny

2 posted on 10/23/2012 6:40:33 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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A felon loses certain means to self-defense because they have demonstrated themselves to be a threat to others.

If they think they can make a case that they are not such a threat, then they have legal means to petition to reinstate their legal ability to have a firearm.

I have no problem with a felony conviction having such consequences.


3 posted on 10/23/2012 6:43:16 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: marktwain

I agree. Right to self defense should override that offense


4 posted on 10/23/2012 6:46:16 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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"Everyone has the right to self defense. A felon still should be able to defend his home."

Right on!

Unless a person is convicted of a violent offense and at the time, having used a weapon in the commission of said crime, all others should be able to (say after a reasonable time, mayhaps 5 years of going straight) apply for permission to own a weapon.

I have a friend who is a Vietnam Vet and former Fed LEO who got caught up in a white collar crime (some 25 years ago and has not had so much as a parking ticket since) and he is frustrated at not being able to have a weapon (or even live in a home whereby someone else in his family can) to protect himself and his family.

Time to revisit (though I doubt most Pols have the nerve) the auto banning of possession of a weapon for "any" convicted felon.

5 posted on 10/23/2012 6:46:46 AM PDT by neveralib
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“That’s right officer, I took the gun from one of the intruders and returned fire. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.”


6 posted on 10/23/2012 6:47:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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Hey, I’m just a bystander here, but see sampleman’s post. They do have rights to petition to remove this restriction.


7 posted on 10/23/2012 6:49:57 AM PDT by OldPossum
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Up until recent history, being a convicted felon didn't lose you the right to self defense. That was Johnson's gun law that did that.

I prefer we stick with the Constitution, and the 'shall not be infringed' part.

/johnny

8 posted on 10/23/2012 6:50:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: OldPossum

Again, the OP spouts without reading the post thoroughly. You did acknowledge that right. Sorry.


9 posted on 10/23/2012 6:51:38 AM PDT by OldPossum
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If they can't be trusted with self defense, they should remain in prison. Self-defense is a God given right.

Many people have been convicted of crimes demonstrating that they cannot be trusted with many things, such as driving, being around an ex-spouse, having deadly weapons, etc. It is a waste of money to keep them all in prison. Taking away God given rights is what criminal punishment is all about and punishment is not restricted to physical restraint.

When someone can't handle doing something without harming others, then that right can be legally taken away as a form of punishment and societal protection. Prison terms do not rehabilitate people. I very much disagree with your all or nothing approach to prison. The loss of certain rights after release is a form of parole.

As I posted before, if they don't pose a threat, let them plead their case on an individual basis.

10 posted on 10/23/2012 6:54:52 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Wow am I the only one that noticed tha the felon’s last name was “Sinville”? What a name. He didn’t even have a chance.


11 posted on 10/23/2012 6:56:41 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SampleMan

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


12 posted on 10/23/2012 6:57:38 AM PDT by steve8714 (Code pink vaginas shown actual size)
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The law reads that a felon cannot posses a gun....period.
There’s a very good reason for that and common sense will reveal it only to those with common sense.

With that said I think felon upon felon crime is great. It’s good that they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

Now, if we can only make criminals executed in the same horrible manner they killed their victims and in the same length of time it took them to die too.


13 posted on 10/23/2012 6:58:22 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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I have no problem with a felony conviction having such consequences.

WHAT ABOUT WHEN JAYWALKING BECOMES A FELONY?......

14 posted on 10/23/2012 6:59:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Why yes, that was crude and uncalled for......That's why I said it..............)
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To: SampleMan
If they aren't going to be allowed to defend themselves (going back to the bad old idea of homo sacer or wolf's head) and you don't want to keep them in prison, then the merciful thing to do is kill them.

/johnny

15 posted on 10/23/2012 7:02:16 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: OldPossum

the pederstran has the right of way over the vehicle. He/she is seldom successful in exercising it. It takes money and usually political clout to get one’s civil rights restoted. To be successful, one has to hire a lawyer and said lawyer has to bribe politicians. Both require money.


16 posted on 10/23/2012 7:02:46 AM PDT by sport
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Nope.

They have forfeited the trust of their fellow citizens. Serving your prison sentence does NOT make you trustworthy. They can use lesser means to defend themselves, but their RKBA is gone and justifiably so.

There should be a way for an ex-con to get his RKBA back, but should not be easy or fast.


17 posted on 10/23/2012 7:08:46 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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then they have legal means to petition to reinstate their legal ability to have a firearm.

Are either of you willing to put your money where your mouth is, so to speak, and funding the required appeals for released felons? I am pretty sure most of them are not, and more than likely never will be, able to fund such an endeavor themselves.

I believe if they are safe enough to have on the street they should have full reinstatement of all rights.

18 posted on 10/23/2012 7:15:39 AM PDT by onceone (0311, K Co., 3/5 1st Mar Div, RVN '68)
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To: Little Ray

There is a way. It is money, lots of it.


19 posted on 10/23/2012 7:18:53 AM PDT by sport
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They have forfeited the trust of their fellow citizens. Serving your prison sentence does NOT make you trustworthy

Upon re-reading the second amendment I still don't see where the right to keep and bear arms is limited to those the government deems trustworthy. In ract it says "shall not be infringed." This restriction is a new (Johnson era) completely unconstituitonal restriction. Those who support it are de facto supporting the concept of a "living constitution" ie. one that means nothing.

And BTW that restriction didn't really work did it?

20 posted on 10/23/2012 7:21:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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