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God is sovereign also over Satan. Read the book of Job.

Satan does wickedly, but he is a creature who owes his continued existence, as does the whole universe to God. He is not an independent force.

Historic Christianity rejects Zoroastrian dualism of a good god/force and an evil demiurge who are equal in power. It reduces God to a creature. God's power is transcendent, it is above the universe and sovereign over it, divine not creaturely. God is able to rule evil in such away that wicked men act responsibly, also Satan. Yet God accomplishes his holy purpose in judgment.

The prime example of this is the Cross of Christ: Acts 2:23; Acts 4:27,28.

Rape is evil. The conception and birth of a child, who committed no crime, is not.

10 posted on 10/25/2012 12:10:46 AM PDT by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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Every ill informed Christian uses Job to try to prove that fallacy. I see you are no exception and you clearly demonstrate you do NOT know God. READ and STUDY the rest of God's Word and get to know Him.

Acts 2:23 combined with the Old Testament prophecies and Jesus’ own words concerning His death and resurrection (Matthew 16:21), leaves no doubt that the crucifixion didn’t just happen. It was planned by God.

Does that mean that God bears all responsibility, and those who actually were instrumental in the rejection and crucifixion of Jesus are not guilty? Not at all. Jesus came to the earth to die in our place and thereby purchase redemption for us. That was His plan. But He didn’t force anyone to fulfill it.

His ministry and message placed Him in direct opposition with the devil and his followers. Their hatred for Jesus caused them, of their own free will, to crucify Jesus.

God, in all His wisdom, simply knew what man would do, and He determined to use their rejection of His Son to accomplish His will. He NEVER controls our will to accomplish His Will. We freely obey or freely not obey. God didn't make us robots. Love doesn't control. God is all Love.

..."Who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth". 1 Tim 2:4

Will everyone be saved? NO!

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to DESTRUCTION, and MANY enter through it". But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to LIFE, and only a FEW find it". Matthew 7:13,14

God wants all to be saved; yet MANY will not be through their own free will.

Do you lock your doors at night? Why? Seems you are trying to preventing God's Will from happening. Do you take aspirin or any meds? Why? Do you pray for the sick? Why?

According to your way of thinking God wants someone to rob/kill you and HE wants you sick. YET you are going against His will to try and prevent it? Now why would such a 'well informed good Christian' go against His Will?

See how that teaching will make one take no responsibility for their own actions and give cover for satan? See how twisted that teaching is? Do you resist satan as God tell us to? According to your thinking, you can't, after all, satan's doing God's will. That is truly fork tongue teaching!

God created us in His image and likeness and homos say God made them that way. Just like you saying God created satan. God created LUCIFER not satan. Get to know the difference!

So much for your 'Historic Christianity'. It's not even Christian but perverted teaching meant to deceive. But according to your teaching God wants us deceived. Now where would that teaching come from as GOD clearly warns us satan has come to kill, rob and destroy and satan is the Father of Lies/Deception.

38 posted on 10/25/2012 7:57:09 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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