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The Electoral College, Under Attack
Townhall.com ^ | November 2, 2012 | Mark Davis

Posted on 11/02/2012 5:33:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/02/2012 5:33:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
If the electoral college is abolished it is go time.

I'd gladly fight and die to preserve the last real vestige of the power of the Several States.

2 posted on 11/02/2012 5:40:22 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Kaslin

The electoral college is a necessity because it prevents massive voter fraud in one state (say, Illinois) from affecting the votes in the other 49 states. It’s essential to maintain a relatively fair election.


3 posted on 11/02/2012 5:42:13 AM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: Kaslin
1. Mathematical proof of the legitimacy of the Electoral College: Math Against Tyranny

2. From a less esoteric perspective, the Electoral College limits the range of vote fraud. A given state can generate a zillion fraudulent ballots, but that doesn't give them any more electoral votes. With a "National Popular Vote" scheme, fraudulent votes affect the entire country.

4 posted on 11/02/2012 5:42:33 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin

The only thing I would like to see is the electoral votes awarded by district instead of by state. I am sick of Chicago manufacturing enough votes to award my EC vote to the Democrat every year.


5 posted on 11/02/2012 5:56:45 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: Kaslin

The 17th amendment is a beautiful example of what is wrong with the popular vote.

Here in Michigan the state government is GOP from governor all the way down to the local dog catcher. Both houses of the legislature are firmly GOP but Detroit, Flint, and Ann Arbor elect our senators again and again.

Prior to choosing senators by popular vote they were chosen by those we elected to represent us from the local level. Those senators would mostly be republican and few would serve more than a term or two as our state legislature changed from year to year. Those senators represented the state or else and could be removed almost overnight if they stepped out of line.

The national popular vote is being sold under the empowerment snake oil label as the 17th amendment but means the exact opposite. Its about mob rule where the loudest and most aggressive wins in a system that was never intended to be that way.


6 posted on 11/02/2012 5:57:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DuncanWaring

Under pure mob rule democracy, rights exist at the whim of the mob.


7 posted on 11/02/2012 6:00:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: jboot

No, no. Never die. Your job is always to make the enemy die for his cause. Not you die for yours!!


8 posted on 11/02/2012 6:03:06 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Scriptures clearly tell us we are in the last days, the end times. Christ is the only answer!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve often wondered if it would be better for the electoral votes to be awarded one electoral vote per COUNTY in the U.S.


9 posted on 11/02/2012 6:04:55 AM PDT by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: Kaslin

Electoral college votes awarded to the candidate should be proportional to the popular vote in the state. The current winner takes all method gives a huge headstart to RATS before the first vote is cast. Unless it is modified it will only get worse for Repubs especially since RATS fleeing disfunctional blue states move to red states and turn them blue.


10 posted on 11/02/2012 6:09:36 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: Kaslin

“I’d like it in the bag before the wee hours of Wednesday morning. I hope this is not asking too much.”

Probably is. Even though we have four more days (sounds like a fine chant — 4! More! Days!) to recover from Sandy, there will be outages and displaced people enough to impact the election, and that means lawyers will surface like rats and toads. They’ll argue, with the help of the media, that voters were “disenfranchised” by the storm. Polling stations that couldn’t open for lack of power, machines inaccessible or damaged, or some other eventuality not yet dreamed up.

If the overall results are in Romney’s favor, and NY and NJ go in his column, the Dems will challenge it for sure, and how hard is it to find a black-robed accomplice in either state?


11 posted on 11/02/2012 6:10:31 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (Please proceed, Governor. To the White House.)
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To: RetiredArmy
I have no illusions. I'm getting older and my eyes and ears don't work as well as they used to (and they were never great to begin with). If it ever comes to blows, I'm probably gonna get whacked pretty early in the game.

That doesn't mean that I won't be taking more than my share of the bastidges with me, though.

12 posted on 11/02/2012 6:11:56 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: jboot

Never underestimate the value of non combat covert support.

It will keep you alive and in many situations, make you far more valuable than a dozen armed men.


13 posted on 11/02/2012 6:35:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin

Main reason to keep the Electoral College:

Over the next 35 years we could see the 2 Party system explode.

So, imagine a race with 4 Presidential Candidates:

1. Democrat
2. Republican
3. National Socialist
4. Green Party Candidate

The NAZI could win with 25.1% of the vote.

Because Liberals don’t know history, are too proud to admit it, and too stupid to look it up they always go for what’s easy instead of what’s wise.


14 posted on 11/02/2012 6:50:37 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: a real Sheila

“I’ve often wondered if it would be better for the electoral votes to be awarded one electoral vote per COUNTY in the U.S.”

Then, as Governor, I would create 400 additional counties. Bad idea.


15 posted on 11/02/2012 6:53:02 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: jboot
If the electoral college is abolished it is go time.

I'd gladly fight and die to preserve the last real vestige of the power of the Several States.

I have a feeling that if Romney wins the popular vote and Obama wins the electoral college, you'll see a lot of FReepers screaming for its abolishment.

16 posted on 11/02/2012 6:55:13 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: King of Florida

Not me.


17 posted on 11/02/2012 6:58:14 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: jboot; King of Florida

Me neither.


18 posted on 11/02/2012 7:13:38 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: King of Florida
I have a feeling that if Romney wins the popular vote and Obama wins the electoral college, you'll see a lot of FReepers screaming for its abolishment.

Unfortunate but true. FR hero, Fred Thompson is an active spokesman for the national popular vote. Here in Michigan our (thankfully former) state GOP chair and national committeeman, Saul Anuzis was quietly slapped down for promoting it from his official position.
19 posted on 11/02/2012 7:15:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: jboot

LOL! That’s the spirit, Harry!


20 posted on 11/02/2012 7:43:26 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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