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FEMA Out of Water, No Delivery Until Monday
Breitbart ^ | Nov 3, 2012 | Michael Patrick Leahy

Posted on 11/03/2012 11:03:16 AM PDT by blueyon

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To: blueyon
Disease is inevitable now. The belief that FEMA could do anything is a belief in a false god.

These problems are going to continue. There was great jubilation that ConEd had restored power to parts of lower Manhattan. I know from professional experience that cables will begin to fault because of salt water intrusion. Sure enough there are reports of it happening now. These problems will continue to play out for months and years.

The problem will not be limited to underground electric, but will also include natural gas lines. They may purge them an get service restored, but the chlorides have already contaminated the distribution system. Over the coming years internal corrosion will result in extensive damage to the system. The cost of repairs and replacement will be staggering.

Add gas furnaces, boilers, hot water heaters, electric panels and pumps to the mix of damaged infrastructure and the extent of this disaster will be staggering as is the inevitable human impact.

Finally, there will be little time for mitigation as winter is setting in. Government will not solve these problems. Government by it's very nature will make them worse. That is my prediction and I am standing by it.
101 posted on 11/03/2012 12:10:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: blueyon

Whenever the President declares a Federal Emergency, the cost shifts to 75% all taxpayers, and 25%max from the declared State. Obama has a “ton” of disasters...more than any other president in history. Here they are if anyone is interested.

http://www.fema.gov/news/disaster_totals_annual.f...


102 posted on 11/03/2012 12:11:04 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: sanjuanbob

Lets try www.fema.gov/disasters


103 posted on 11/03/2012 12:12:59 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: blueyon

Get some damn tank trucks in there loaded with water, how hard can that be???


104 posted on 11/03/2012 12:13:15 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: blueyon

Gee, I keep hearing how this is being handled way better than Bush did for Katrina.

No one is sleeping on their roofs waiting to be rescued, they are getting fuel, food, shelter, etc.


105 posted on 11/03/2012 12:13:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: okie01

woo-hoo Irving shout out!


106 posted on 11/03/2012 12:14:25 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Now that Geraldo has blasted all over twitter that he has koi in his pond, I wonder how long they’ll last when people have exhausted all of the throwaway food/dumpster supplies and will eat anything? Koi ‘sushi’ ... sounds pretty good when you’re starving.


107 posted on 11/03/2012 12:14:35 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: The Cajun

National Guard water buffaloes are SOP in disasters placed as needed but especially at Red Cross Shelters. If the National Guard is disallowed, then they don’t bring the water.


108 posted on 11/03/2012 12:17:47 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If Dubya was still in the White House, the commie pig rabble in this country would be on their way to Washington to lynch him.

When it was Katrina and New Orleans it was PRESIDENT Bush's fault. With a Dem President it's all the mayors fault or FEMA's fault or the Neighborhood watch' fault - anybody BUT Obama.

Not that the MSM is biased, hateful and corrupt...

FEMA and Homeland Security are worthless - - one step below the Red Cross... Then again FEMA and Homeland Security ordered millions of bullets - but again NOT to stop looting...

109 posted on 11/03/2012 12:20:09 PM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34)
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To: MissMagnolia

How long will it take them to descend on Rockefeller Plaza and make the morning news.


110 posted on 11/03/2012 12:20:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: count-your-change

Exactly.

They’ll have to have seminars at high-priced hotels to ‘evaluate’ their reports of the emergency, they’ll practice their jargon-speak on one another, they’ll have entertainment after hours and massages and saunas and some golfing to unwind after all the evaluation and assessing. They’ll sleep in their luxury suites and have drinks in classy lounges with ferns and cigars.

This disaster is a gold-mine for bureaucratic seminar-goers.


111 posted on 11/03/2012 12:21:07 PM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: GOPJ

You have been duped into believing the MSM template on Katrina.


112 posted on 11/03/2012 12:21:36 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: blueyon

Isn’t there some way to air lift supplies in to the residential areas? I’d heard that Trump was going to supply a huge amount of drinking water.


113 posted on 11/03/2012 12:23:49 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: blueyon

I was in Ike and the county commissioner had to threaten them with commandeering their trucks and jailing the if they did not get their butts inb gear. He turned the air not just ble but ultraviolet blue and they finallly got going. It apppears that Fema has deteriorated since then.


114 posted on 11/03/2012 12:25:56 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: bert
That is just insane and OBobo is taking credit for doing WHAT!
I thank the Lord everyday that I live in the South and in a rural area.
I really feel sorry for those folks up there depending on politicians and bureaucrats to help them out.
115 posted on 11/03/2012 12:27:09 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: An American In Dairyland
Fema unprepared to deliver bottled WATER? What the... Water is the #1 most important thing to deliver to people in a crisis.

FEMA is ill-suited to this mission, due to its need to place bids for relief supplies and then make contracts for delivery.

The US Army is much better suited for this. They have people trained in how to deliver supplies through rough terrain, in any weather, and adverse security conditions.

They have mobile water purification units

They have mobile field kitchens

They have fuel trucks that will go anywhere.

They have warehouses full of MREs.

And the military's supply and logistics units are mostly National Guard and Reserves, and much of the stuff is distributed all over the country.

A competent solution would have involved mobilizing Army and National Guard support units, which could have used their ready supplies, stores, and equipment immediately, and then replaced used-up stuff at leisure.

116 posted on 11/03/2012 12:29:33 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: jeffc
Yes, it is, but no one will know: the "media" won't report it 'cuz it will make Zero look bad. Now if Bush was still Prez, they'd be all over it!

Unfortunately for Obama, much of the incompetence is readily visible all over the NorthEast, in states that Obama must carry in order to win.

117 posted on 11/03/2012 12:31:45 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: ntnychik

Snow isn’t exactly an uncommon occurrence in West Virginia. A 14-foot storm surge on the other hand, isn’t something that happens in the tri-state area every few years.


118 posted on 11/03/2012 12:31:57 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: sanjuanbob
Whenever the President declares a Federal Emergency, the cost shifts to 75% all taxpayers, and 25%max from the declared State.

I heard something yesterday about New York State arguing over that 25%, trying to get the feds to agree to pick up that part of the tab as well.

I'm not sure whether New Jersey was asking for the same, but this water shortage sure sounds like someone is applying a bit of leverage.

119 posted on 11/03/2012 12:36:07 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: lonevoice
The clean up is going to be a second disaster. Condemnation of damaged buildings, equipment brought in to clean up, union rules for the trades, etc. Happy time is over.
120 posted on 11/03/2012 12:36:10 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: sodpoodle

they attend fusion meetings where during the day they discuss with state and local law enforcement how to put down the locals when the revolution starts and at night they screw prostitutes and get completely inebriated on the taxpayer dollar.


121 posted on 11/03/2012 12:36:17 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I speak from post-Katrina experience...a van full of Baptist church ladies,a cell phone and a pot and spoons and they can HANDLE ANYTHING! I firmly believe that. Their organizational network and can-do determination is epic! God Bless em. Even sitting in lines for gas there were Baptists going car to car with cold water. They fed folks`brought free clothing,cut hair,supplied laundry trucks,then listened and prayed with you. Let`em in and life improves immediately!


122 posted on 11/03/2012 12:45:10 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: blueyon

GREAT JOB THERE BROWNIE... OH WAIT...

LLS


123 posted on 11/03/2012 12:48:39 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: duckman
“If Dubya was still in the White House...” If I remember correctly, Bush had all the aid trucks etc lined up and ready to enter N/O prior to Katrina arriving.

Yes he did but they could not enter the city until the governor (Democrat) and mayor (Democrat) gave the OK ... which they did not give it for days . Just like now where Bloomberg is saying no to National Guards in NYC (National Guard does not just patrol the streets , they have all kinds of equipment to clear them and they are really good at being able to deliver things to hard hit areas).
All this mess you are seeing is because of stupid democrats , their love of red tape , their love of trying to micromanage everyone else . What you are seeing is they know they have money coming for disaster relief but they want to funnel that money to their own union goons .

Americans need to watch and pay close attention . You need to always have extra food and water and a little bit of cash always stashed away . Your life does count on this , especially if you live in blue areas .
124 posted on 11/03/2012 12:49:23 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: count-your-change

Oh, my. I hadn’t even thought that far ahead. But, of course, you are quite right about that.


125 posted on 11/03/2012 12:52:57 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: dfwgator
It has already killed off any reelection chances obama had... the stew will simmer until Tuesday night but the goose is cooked captain!

LLS

126 posted on 11/03/2012 12:53:18 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: katiedidit1

That’s the problem. It’s white “folks” who need help. Not worth reporting because it doesn’t fit inside their racism box.


127 posted on 11/03/2012 12:53:29 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Centaur
You should send your story to Fox News. Maybe they will cover it.
128 posted on 11/03/2012 1:01:33 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yeah, you’re probably right. After all, Walmart is nonunion. It’s my understanding that NJ union utility crews ran off some nonunion crews who had driven all the way from Alabama to help out. How stupid was that? Wonder where little tubby was when this went down?


129 posted on 11/03/2012 1:01:33 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: PA Engineer

The first case of Cholera will be reported before the election.

LLS


130 posted on 11/03/2012 1:01:39 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: blueyon

Just remember, these are the same buffoons that want to control our health care..they can’t even pass out water right yet they think they can manage the health care system..boy are we screwed


131 posted on 11/03/2012 1:03:04 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: PapaBear3625
A competent solution would have involved mobilizing Army and National Guard support units, which could have used their ready supplies, stores, and equipment immediately, and then replaced used-up stuff at leisure.

Great post. Where was the wargaming for this happening? The planning off that wargaming? Sandy gave several days warning. That is sufficient time to get equipment and personnel from any National Guard facility in the lower 48. Instead, several days AFTER Sandy, they still are slow to react.

132 posted on 11/03/2012 1:05:52 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: blueyon

#1- I’m sorry Sandy happened.
#2- I’m happy Sandy happened.
I pray FEMA will be exposed for what they truly are. Maybe NYC and NJ will be able to do that. It’s starting already.

Hopefully Romney will look into FEMA and get rid of them completely.


133 posted on 11/03/2012 1:07:48 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: wolfman

“Sheesh. There’s water everywhere there. Boil it.”

No electricity, no fuel. But I get your point: they could strain pond water through cloth and add 1/4 tsp bleach per gallon. It won’t be delicious and it sure ain’t perrier, but it’s better than dying of thirst.


134 posted on 11/03/2012 1:07:59 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Leftists are the small hive beetles of the American hive)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Along with the EPA!


135 posted on 11/03/2012 1:09:08 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: PA Engineer
These problems are going to continue.

I don't doubt your scenario on iota.

136 posted on 11/03/2012 1:11:35 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Mr. K
“A big fat bloated inefficient government bureaucracy that sits around doing nothing until they are needed, and then they do nothing.”

Were you also describing Christie?

137 posted on 11/03/2012 1:11:57 PM PDT by toomanylaws
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To: blueyon

Send in the New Black Panthers.


138 posted on 11/03/2012 1:12:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: freeangel
Hey, I’m sure the president’s photo op will more than make up for not having any water.

Wish I was good at photoshop or drawing cartoons.

Have a nice shot of Air Force One flying off and a throng of people looking up with a "We will leave no one behind," coming from the plane and one of the mass of people on the ground saying, "Only four people got left behind in Benghazi."

139 posted on 11/03/2012 1:14:38 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: blueyon
They should call Wal-Mart. I'm sure they have stock and will provide.

Above is NOT intended to be humorous. Wal-Mart takes immediate action on news of a storm like this, and pre-stages additional stocks of storm supplies in close proximity (but not directly in) the impact area. I read a story about the response of Wal-Mart (and Home Depot, and a few others) by comparison the FEMA in the response to Katrina in the Gulfport/Biloxi area. Wal-Mart was, for a large chunk of time, the ONLY place that victims and rescue workers could get supplied.

140 posted on 11/03/2012 1:17:38 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: PapaBear3625

Oh, so mankind DID invent desalinization/purification machines!?!?

/s


141 posted on 11/03/2012 1:21:14 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: sneakers

bttt


142 posted on 11/03/2012 1:22:13 PM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: Kartographer; Lurker

I guess there were 2 threads and the other one was shorter and got pulled or something


143 posted on 11/03/2012 1:24:09 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blueyon

Obama is crashing. He now has his own “Katrina” (Sandy) around his neck, and so well deserved. Totally useless human being, and....he has set Black Americans back 150 years!!! How any Black American could have ever voted for this known “flim/flam”, Chicago shyster, is beyond basic common sense, and candid comprehension!!! My heart aches for, our slain American heroes, murdered, because this failed POTUS hung them out to dry & die!!! May God grant them paradise and rest-in-peace, forever. As for murderer Obama, the Lord above will meter out due justice to him and the ilk that supported him!!! Obama, American Traitor!!!


144 posted on 11/03/2012 1:25:18 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: blueyon

For photoshoppers:

Remember the photo of Bush and his dad fishing in NO with survivors struggling by? The bushes are excited by the size of the fish George just reeled in?

We need one of New Jersey now, with survivors in the background as Obama golfs happily. Picture =1000 words. Let’s get it viral,


145 posted on 11/03/2012 1:26:31 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: blueyon

You know, FEMA appears to just suck no matter who is office..


146 posted on 11/03/2012 1:26:42 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Vote him out!)
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To: blueyon

And this Clown Posse in DC wants to run your health care!


147 posted on 11/03/2012 1:27:07 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: toomanylaws

Crist & Christie....two birds of a feather that destroyed their careers by licking Obama’s boots. Two Idiots!!!


148 posted on 11/03/2012 1:27:56 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Companies like Walmart are “bad guys” for Communists, but “good guys” for NORMAL people;)


149 posted on 11/03/2012 1:29:31 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: blueyon

Mrs. ConservativeInPa says, “These community organizers can’t organize worth crap.”


150 posted on 11/03/2012 1:30:13 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (I advocate indentured servitude for the 47% until the national debt is eliminated.)
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