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To: SJackson
Allen West lost too.
He was not conservative enough! He was a Rino Like Romney,

You dummies just don't get it, Conservatism lost big, Look at all the Senators that lost.

If Romney ran as a real Rino, he would have won. But his hard stand on immigrates, planned parenthood lost him the election.

The kids on under 40 are libs forever and Godless.

Smell the roses, conservatism is over in America,

In a few years We all we be Californians.

Even gay marriage won last night.

Turn off the lights the party is over!

14 posted on 11/07/2012 5:45:16 AM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
Your assessment is correct; America has forsaken the Lord Jesus Christ, God the Father, the Word of God and the Judeo-Christian principles our nation was founded upon.

America has utterly rejected conservatism and embraced Marxist-Socialism. We are under the direct judgment of Almighty God.

The good news is God is in control and the Lord Jesus Christ is coming back.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 6:03:11 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: factmart

yup....the immoral majority bending to the father of lies


64 posted on 11/07/2012 6:41:02 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: factmart

The only problem with your analysis is the continued existence of the great sea of red south of the Ohio and Missouri Rivers and west of the Sierra Nevadas (minus Florida, and with a few extra states thrown in). Look at that map. In fact, break it out county by county and it’s even more stark.

The result is not that conservatism loses. It’s that conservatism loses in highly urban areas populated heavily with moochers and secularists. Conservatives win every where else.

The brilliance of the socialists is that they found a way to tilt the population balance heavily in their favor by subsidizing illegitimacy in urban areas, with the subsidies funded by the industriousness of the population in that vast sea of red.

Students of history realize that unless this changes, there will only be one eventual result: Fewer stars on the American flag.


72 posted on 11/07/2012 6:46:33 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: factmart

So true what you said about the kids under 40. This is why the communists running our public schools have been indoctrinating the kids for the past 30 years: Now we have a whole new demographic of adults running around who will vote for anything communist. I noticed this change around the late 70s early 80s when I finished up my education. In my classes you still had teachers/Professors from the 1950s, very Republican and Conservatives, but by around 1981 I noticed they were being replaced by the radicals, the commies, leftists. And around the mid 80s they were all replaced as the last retired so what you were left with was the Bill Ayers the Ward Churchills, and this crap they teach has been going on ever since. So now you got an avowed commie like Barack Obama easily winning the office of POTUS. That would have been impossible 30 years ago, and not because of his race. Well, these kids who are now adults are going to learn the hard way what communism does. Let them ignore the history books all they want - When the hard cold reality of it smashes them in the face I will be front and center telling them to go F themselves.


92 posted on 11/07/2012 6:56:47 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: factmart
Conservatism lost big, Look at all the Senators that lost.

Tea party conservative Ted Cruz won the US senate seat vacated by Texas' squishy moderate Kay Bailey Hutchison. So, at least one chalk mark on the plus side.

139 posted on 11/07/2012 8:19:48 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: factmart
You are correct. The so-called left and the so-called right have been pushed into a narrow band of corporate fascism. I am dismayed to see so many fall back into labeling it socialism. It is corporate crony fascism, where a few wedge issues are tossed to masses to fight to the death over, whilst the systemic controllers sit back and loot the nation.

If the Republicans are to have any chance of not fading into the dustbin of history, due to demographics and also the Democratic co-opting them as the party of big-business (Obama care is, at it's core, CORPORATE socialism, a huge power grab for the huge insurance and bio-pharm companies), they are going to have to attack the bankster’s death grip on the American system.

It is NOT conservative to allow a build-up of the prison-industrial complex, it is NOT conservative to allow the wholeale destruction of constitutional civil rights via such horrid laws as the NDAA and the Patriot Act. It is NOT conservative to buy into the boom-bust economic cycle, it is NOT conservative to allow the Federal Reserve to dictate fiscal policy and dollar destruction.

It is NOT conservative to think that house prices are only headed in the right direction if they are increasing at double-digit annual rates. When this occurs, the average person CANNOT ever hope to own property, as they will have to become life-long debt slaves simply to pay off the mortgage, something that people as recently as the 1970’s and before would have NEVER done.

It is NOT conservative to spend at least $1.2 trillion per year on the military industrial complex, the vast majority which is used to fight empiric wars of force projection that benefit only the huge banks and multi-nationals.

Finally, it is not conservative to simply attack the huge percentage of people of people who are simply the product of almost 5 decades of corporate/public alliances (championed, at the end of the day by BOTH parties through false paradigmical dialectics) that have degraded the critical infrastructures such as education, health care, transportation, communications, etc.

Simpling funneling up a greater and great percentage of wealth to a smaller and smaller group of people, whilst erecting a police/surveillance state (based on false paradigms of fear) to guarantee that the looters’ agenda is maintained is NOT conservative.

Attack the systemic controlling banks, decentralize corporate power, tear down the for-profit apparatus of the bio-pharma/health care complex (allowing the US government to negotiate volume-based discounts with big-pharma is a huge start and is also FREE MARKET, something that I assume conservatives still should believe in) The US health care system is in shambles after decades of corporate, for profit control. It is, for the average american, not even remotely close to adequate. The top 20 systems in the entire world are all single-payer, and all spend a fraction of what the US does on a per person basis. France (number one in the world) spends HALF per capita the US does. Japan number 3) spends ONE THIRD. To maintain the current oligarchic, public/private, (the worst of BOTH sides dominates now) corporate-run system is NOT fiscally conservative, it is madness. In short, conservatives need to start acting like the champions of small business, stop participating in the sham that is the fear-and-loathing complex that is bankrupting the nation through the false paradigms of empiric force projection couple with the security/surveillance state (an alliance that breeds DEPENDANCE on the government at a base, primal psychological level for coddling, smothering protection, thus guaranteeing dependence on an ever larger state as well). And, most importantly take back the power of the pourse from the privately-controlled Federal Reserve by nationalizing it. The Fed is the bi-partisan supported banskter boot-heel on the throats of 99% of the populace. They have, since 1913, devalued the US dollar by over 98%, in terms of contant purchasing power. You will never instill conservative values of individual reponsibilty and increased self-reliance in anyone who is a debt peonage slave.

152 posted on 11/07/2012 9:23:40 AM PST by Abiotic (The ship of democracy, which has weathered all storms, may sink through the mutiny of those on board)
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To: factmart

“Even gay marriage won last night.”

This is one of the most astounding results to me. To think that no state had done this before, and even as recently as earlier this year the people of N.C. soundly rejected gay marriage. Then last night, 4 state all approve gay marriage. How quickly we have slouched into Gomorrah...


202 posted on 11/07/2012 3:32:30 PM PST by lquist1
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To: factmart
Allen West lost too. He was not conservative enough! He was a Rino Like Romney, You dummies just don't get it, Conservatism lost big, Look at all the Senators that lost. If Romney ran as a real Rino, he would have won. But his hard stand on immigrates, planned parenthood lost him the election.

West is as conservative as they get. Romney is a RINO but ran as a conservative. Idealogy alone doesn't win or lose elections. It is important but just one dimension.

Image and persuasiveness win elections. Romney's image lost the election. He could have run as whatever and it simply would not have mattered. We need a conservative that can effectively persuade the masses like Reagan could AND is young and hip and doesn't look like a fuddy-duddy with a cadillac in the garage.

223 posted on 11/07/2012 4:38:04 PM PST by plain talk
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To: factmart
Conservatism lost big

Non-sense! Allen West was a victim of redistricting.

"After two years of opposing tax increases, fighting to control spending and investigating waste, corruption and incompetence, House Republicans were rewarded with re-election. That is a real achievement."

This is a loss for RINOs


238 posted on 11/07/2012 5:31:51 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: factmart

Allen West got screwed by the GOPe on redistricting. Your argument there is bogus.


265 posted on 11/08/2012 1:45:06 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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