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To: neverdem

I doubt this is why Romney barely won NC, and lost Michigan and PA. Maybe it explains Colorado and Nevada.

That being said, Hispanics are NOT republicans waiting to be asked to join. They’re poorer, resistant to assimilation, and want plenty of social services.

The GOP will probably cave for amnesty, thinking it’ll get them cred. All it will do is legalize millions of new democrat voters, and further decay.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 4:24:36 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

Correct! If you legalize more dem voters, you get more dem voters. If you don’t legalize more dem voters, you won’t get the previously legalized dem voters. There is no winning choice here. The Repub party needs to be clear about this—>simply refuse to play. The long term cost in terms of strengthening the opposition party cannot be overcome even if a handful of short-term votes might be achieved (which is doubtful at best). You cannot win this game so refuse to play. This was clear to me in the 1980’s but the calculations seem to continue to evade some Repub strategists who are convinced that demographic changes demand the Repubs court the Hispanic vote. That CAN be done—the strategists are just not looking at the right solutions.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 4:37:54 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Shadow44
Republicans need to focus on the next generation of Hispanics, not the last group to swim across the Rio Grande River.

They may be poor now and they may be a burden on social services now (though I suspect they're heavy users of California's "safety net" simply because the net is there, and wouldn't be there otherwise), but immigrants by and large tend to be a very upwardly mobile demographic group. Members of my own family have married Spanish-speaking spouses from immigrant families, and the second generation in those families tends to be far more conservative than their white, native-born American counterparts.

37 posted on 11/07/2012 4:54:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Shadow44
Nah, you'd be surprised there are many Mexicans in NC.

last fourth of July, we had no plans so we decided to head to a local lake outside of Raleigh for the afternoon. It was completely filled. We figured, ah, we can just pull over here at one of these inlet places and find a spot.

Holy crap. We walked down this path toward the lake. there were 100s of illegals (I am guessing). Trash everywhere. Families, extended families of ten or more. Loud barrio music blaring. I felt like I walked into a third world country. I have been in third world countries and NOT felt the feeling I was feeling there. I never felt so foreign in my own country.

I am back in Arizona now where I have resided for many years, with the exception of two years in NC. I have never seen anything like that in Arizona. I can't even exaggerate the scene to you.

52 posted on 11/07/2012 5:12:19 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Shadow44

What can we do to boost the ranks of the Republicans by a few million?


77 posted on 11/07/2012 6:24:01 PM PST by tbw2
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