WTF?
Never happen.
Secession means war against the Federal machine. I’m all for it, but it will never happen peacefully.
Couldn’t we all just get together at kick the federal government out of America?
Hey, wait up, Nebraska here, can we go with you?
This is just an online petition. Nothing official and therefore meaningless.
Realize that under our current system people in other states have more say on what goes on in your state than you and your fellow state residents. It makes no sense that the people of Massachusetts and California have a say over people in Louisiana, Texas or Indiana. Or vice versa. The notion that one city can or should rule such a vast, diverse continental expanse is nuts.
Would LOVE to see Virginia join in!!!
That’s just inane.
Better option involves less drama and no bullets. Partial virtual secession. Each state slowly refuses to abide by certain fed laws. Alabama just approved a constitutional amendment to limit obamacare in alabama by not requiring a person, employee or business from being compelled to participate in any health care system. This supposedly blocks obamacare in alabama but not sure about that. but it’s a start. We need to find ways to virtually secede.
Geaux LA!! And, include OK and TX (well, we can give the western portion to old or new Meheeco) and get ‘er done!
Better option involves less drama and no bullets. Partial virtual secession. Each state slowly refuses to abide by certain fed laws. Alabama just approved a constitutional amendment to limit obamacare in alabama by not requiring a person, employee or business from being compelled to participate in any health care system. This supposedly blocks obamacare in alabama but not sure about that. but it’s a start. We need to find ways to virtually secede.
Do I have to move there to sign this?
Not in Louisiana but I’m in. If my state does not join will move to a state that does.
Is this for real?
What a waste of money.
Wow 270 signatures.
What your opinion on Bill Cassidy? Maginnis is reporting that he is contemplating a challenge against Mary Landrieu. Since I’m up in Ruston, I’ve not followed him very closely.
Is he in the class with Scalise, or more of a moderate?
It’s still premature. But, wait until the Soviet-style breakdown begins. The problem, as I see it, is how do you get all the states out when, initially, only a few will want to leave. If states leave, one a time, they forfeit representation and, therefore, wouldn’t be able to stop the federal from going after the ones that leave.
Well, we did this thing once before, when the states left the Articles of Confederation and formed a new, more perfect union. They held a convention, invited all the states to send delegates, drew up the agreement, and said it would get underway when 3/4th of the existing states approved it.
In this case, 3/4th seems way too high. Just keep it to a majority. And, don’t agree to a new, more perfect union. Just agree that any state that wants, can leave under the terms of the agreement to leave.
Let’s say I’m from Texas, where, hot dang, being our own independent Republic again sounds pretty attractive. No problem with agreeing to an agreement to allow states to leave. But, what if I’m from a state where leaving is not (yet) supported by the people. All I need to say, as a politician from that state is, we’re just allowing those who are no longer happy with the U.S. to leave on a peaceful basis provided they leave on terms that are fair to the rest of us.
Then, as some red states leave, others will follow. The remaining states of the U.S. will be filled with more and more moochers and looters. Possibly, each and every state will leave, leaving the U.S. to be nothing more than the District of Columbia.
Convention of the states – like the Constitutional Convention
Agree to Disagree – require only that a majority of the states agree that individual states may, during a certain timeframe, agree to withdraw from the Union, provided:
(A) The states that withdraw are either coastal states or states that share a border with a sovereign nation or a state that has withdrawn from the U.S. and, so, is not entirely within the U.S.
(A) The states pledge to respect the rights of its citizens as identified and protected by the U.S. Constitution; the international treaties accepted by the U.S., and the treaties or other agreements of the U.S. with the Indian nations within the state.
(B) Agree in principle to accepting:
(i) a share of the debt of the U.S.,
(ii) the (unfunded) Social Security, Medicare, and federal retirement benefits of the resident in the state, and
(iii) the property of the U.S. located within the state.
(C) Agree in principle to initially using the U.S. Dollar or a new currency pegged at 1:1 to the U.S. Dollar.
(D) Agree in principle to initially joining a Free Trade Agreement with the U.S., the other countries with which the U.S. has an FTA, and with all other states withdrawing from the U.S. under this agreement.
(E) Agree in principle to forever allowing free transit along the navigable waters flowing through the state to the U.S. and the states that have withdrawn from the U.S., and to initially allowing flyover by private-owned and government aircraft and free transit through the state along the roads, railroads and pipelines of the state.
(F) Agree to consider joining into a mutual defense agreement with the U.S., including specifically NATO.
Side benefits: 50 democracies join the U.N., tilting the General Assembly to the good. And every newly independent state gets to send its own team to the Olympics. Of course, Tennessee will have to figure out which of its many state anthems would be played for its gold medal winners. And, we in Virginia will have to figure out what’s going to replace Ol’ Virginie as own national anthem.
They’re asking Obama for PERMISSION?!