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To: DoughtyOne
I submit the RNC works against us continually. Thinks that’s going to change, if we break away?

Why do you assume that everything will be exactly the same? There are plenty of solid red states that have the voting power to destroy the left. Currently the GOP straddles the fence so they can remain competitive for local offices in blue states.

I’m not convinced that’s going to hold up over time. We may in fact see the vote swell to around the same amount as last time.

Smells like wishful thinking to me. So what if it comes true? As I pointed out before, it is extremely unlikely you are even going to be able to meaningfully reign in the debt and spending and slow the rate of decline. Forget changing direction. You are engaging in recreational drug use if you believe that.

We’re making a lot of assumptions about what the actual make-up of our nation is, based on the votes of the adults who bothered to show up.

Maybe you aren't remembering the Bush years when the vote did flip? Massive spending and increases in entitlements? Heck, we even wound up with a whole new entitlement program!

What magic dust are you going to sprinkle on the candidate and the electorate next time to change that?

I don’t see the benefit of splitting off so we can become a shadow of our former existence.

Which existence would that be? The one where half the nation is on the dole? Where half the nation pays no taxes? Where we send soldiers to be little more than unarmed targets for people that hate us? Where in nation where we have boots on the ground Christians are still being martyred and women oppressed? I say win it all back. We can do it.

Put down the bong. Join reality.

142 posted on 11/13/2012 6:46:46 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

In 1964, Goldwater lost by a massively lopsided margin.

We could have said that because of Johnson’s great society programs, the nation would never right itself.

Fact of the matter is, it could have been just as reasonable to say it back then.

Within three years, Johnson declared he wouldn’t run again, and the Democrats lost in 1968. In 1972, just eight short years after 1964, the Republicans won an election that was just as lopsided in reverse.

Hang in there. Keep your powder dry.

Who knows what’s about to transpire. The Democrat party could be so discredited by 2016, they won’t be able to get any candidate elected.


143 posted on 11/13/2012 7:33:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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