Posted on 11/15/2012 4:06:45 PM PST by grumpygresh
We're doomed here in MA, but it's nice to know that there's some fight left in other parts of the country.
The comparison between moonbat and non-moonbat states should be... predictable.
I guess us Arkansans are doomed with our democrat governor......
Read this .... all the reasons why a state should say ‘no’:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333040/obamacare-still-vulnerable-michael-f-cannon
Didn't the Cryer say that "Obamacare is the law of the land"?
Can some patriots get his ear?
What???
From:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333040/obamacare-still-vulnerable-michael-f-cannon
State-created exchanges mean higher taxes, fewer jobs, and less protection of religious freedom. States are better off defaulting to a federal exchange. The Medicaid expansion is likewise too costly and risky a proposition. Republican Governors Association chairman BOB MCDONNELL (R.,Va.) agrees, and has announced that VIRGINIA WILL IMPLEMENT NEITHER PROVISION.
There are many arguments against creating exchanges.
First, states are under no obligation to create one.
Second, operating an Obamacare exchange would be illegal in 14 states. Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah, and VIRGINIA have enacted either statutes or constitutional amendments (or both) forbidding state employees to participate in an essential exchange function: implementing Obamacare’s individual and employer mandates.
Great News from a man that tries to adhere to principle, try to find ways to get things done. Unlike Boner
I have a nephew who is an actuary at a huge insurance company. Their clients are large corporations. GM for instance.
He says they have run the numbers on ObamaCare for many clients. All the clients tend to opting to accept the penalties. His company is also running the numbers for massive conversion to temporary employment.
yitbos
we fight on in the states. thank God for tea party conservatism and its champion gov. walker.
The employers will accept the penalty over insurance. But the states w/o a penalty will be better than states with a penalty. This will be like right to work vs forced unionization. Pretty much all the jobs created in the so called recovery have been in right to work states. The economic conditions between red states and blue states will grow; that’s good.
Eventually, there will be no private health insurers and all health care will be nationalized.
Some private facilities may remain for up front fees. The good stuff will be off shore.
Don't forget, socialists hate free enterprise, profit and private property. There is still plenty to be confiscated.
Might as well add rule of law to that list.
yitbos
My very first political cartoon video was one supporting Walker during his Ohio standoff when the Dems ran out of state (>43K views) to stop him, and they still failed.
A Liberal Teacher explains Union Busting(Feb 26, 2011 youtube)
I couldn't do this with Romney this race. He gave me no good material to use.
Only fly in the ointment - our Gov. Jay Nixon is a Democrat. The legislature is Republican. Doubt if the Gov joins the group.
Take Missouri off that list. Our Democrat Gov. has been trying to sneak around and implement it, even though the voters have rejected it TWICE, and Republican legislature keeps it blocked.
I don’t think our Gov will be joining the group.
Florida governor Rick Scott is caving. He said “I’m responsible for the families of Florida ... If I can get to yes, I want to get to yes.”
Incoming Florida Speaker of the House Weatherford and incoming Florida Senate President Gaetz, both Republican, intend to work on ways to implement only certain parts.
So Florida is being screwed over. At the hands of Republicans.
I hadn’t thought so but I see now that Scott is an unprincipled weasel. He’s not alone in his weasel RINO world. These people campaign on issues and state their principles. Once elected these principles devolve into positions.
Scott’s position is changing because other people were elected or lost elections. Like Boehner he believes “the people have spoken” and he therefor must proceed to capitulate to the Dems.
So much for principle.
If Republicans would stand by their principles they would do much better and not loose elections. The Dems surely aren’t going to support them so why do they pizz on their base? There will be no one left to support them after that. Such idiots.
The point is that if the state’s participate in setting up this debacle, the regime will have them co-opted in it’s ultimate failure. Walker’s point is that the regime will never allow him to set it up the way he would want to, so what’s the point. Let Obama own it. Makes good sense. BTW - Belling also said that his sources said there were about 20 GOP govs that agreed to resist.
The only way for an extant mortal to become a former physicianis to have his license lifted for cause.
Appreciate it.
I’m not arguing with you here, but I swear, you could have run a dead collie and I would have voted for it over Obama.
And that collie would have been much more believable than Romney during the primary process.
LOL
Love this guy. He can communicate, and he does a damn fine job of it. Looks like 2016 material to me. He has guts and youth and fire in his belly to do the job. And he’s conservative.
Wisconsin ping, in case you haven’t heard: Scott Walker will NOT establish an insurance exchange for obamacare.
FRee Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.
Wisconsin ping, in case you haven’t heard: Scott Walker will NOT establish an insurance exchange for obamacare.
FRee Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.
Way to go Walker.
Since Obama likes to play the ‘I won’ game, I think it would be a hoot if the states he lost all refused to sign on.
Oooo, this does sound interesting.
We can quit seeing patients. I would say that makes one a former physician.
Good for Gov. Walker and God Bless him!
Here’s another good take on how the battle now has shifted to states. http://www.forbes.com/sites/gracemarieturner/2012/11/14/the-obamacare-battlefront-shifts-to-the-states/
The effort to repeal has two strikes against it, from SCOTUS and from the recent election. So while the task is more difficult, the game is by no means over. Remember that it took 13 years to repeal Prohibition. But also remember that the Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act was repealed within 6 months of being implemented. Major parts of Obamacare don’t get implemented until 2014. At that point, the SHTF.
Meanwhile we have a month extension to decide which just tells me my ‘Republican’ governor is going to give it a big thumbs up. He’s just hoping the maelstrom will die down enough to agree to it without a ton of flak.
Principles have to be in the core, not on the sleeve. Reagan had them in his core. Romney wore them on his sleeve. Sorry to see your governor had them in the same place as Romney. :-/
Blueprint for States to Reject and Replace Obamacare
“Third, if employers with 50+ employees do not provide federally-approved healthcare, Obamacare imposes a $2,000 penalty per employee, per year. (Minimum penalty $100,000.) However, that penalty is triggered when those employees receive tax subsidies from a state-based exchange.
Since HHS-run exchanges have no subsidies, for states refuseing to create exchanges, no employer in that state will be subject to that penalty. This means business owners will band together to lobby their state not to set up exchanges.”
If employers can’t afford to pay the fine most will simply fire their employees until they get under 50.
Pence in Indiana is officially out of the exchanges as well.
This means of course, that good 'ol Uncle Sugar will be setting it up. SCOTUS already said Obi Care is legit.
Weese all sheeples now...
There's already been efforts to do it under the radar last session. Just saying, if Nixon could have his way we would be setting up the exchanges.
We are worse than sheeple. We are marching to bondage with government bayonets prodding us toward a miserable future.
Ok, I will admit, I do not understand this. Will you please explain how this works? I am sure I’ll be asked by my co-workers, they seem to always come to me about political stuff and I’m ashamed to say, I have not kept up with this other than I know we don’t want it. I know that if the Congress does not fund it, that will help.
Either way, we are going to have it shoved down our throats. I'm acquainted with several folks in the insurance bus. I asked one the other day what plans they have made to implement Obi Care? Her response was,"You tell me?"
Redstate took the Cannon article and expanded it - some pretty good comments if you are interested. Congress is going to have to “open” the Obamacare behemoth & make changes for it not to collapse under its own weight. I would hope the sheep won’t let the wool get pulled over their eyes again and will know what they are passing this time. Here’s the Redstate link - good read:
Healthcare hardball (RedState)
No. No, I don't. Your question made me look into it, and I've been mistaken these forty-some years. I actually live in Idaho. /s
Thanks for the links, both of you, MM and 50mm.
I hope and pray this turns out to be the case, but since McDonnell rolled over and showed his belly on higher taxes, I don’t trust him.
Hmmmmmm....no word from Nathan Deal in GA?
Count Ohio out of the fight. Although we passed a citizens' intiative in 2010 to block O-care, Kasich caved this morning and defaulted to the feds.
Too late...
Very sad to hear. Kasich is acting as 0bama’s useful idiot. The state exchanges will do the dirty work of the Leftists. Nice for Kasich to finish his carrer as an apparachik.
Scott Walker and Allen West, 2016.
Two Republicans that really ARE Republican Conservatives.
The real deal.
Start pushing it to your local GOP committee folks.
Please add Georgia to that growing list.
Point taken. He is a physician who has taken a leave of absence from his practice to serve as Governor.
Point taken. He is a physician who has taken a leave of absence from his practice to serve as Governor.
Look for the Obamacare Unionistas to start striking in every industry in each state that does this. They will attempt to bring these states to their knees...just as Obama is bringing America to her knees.
Count on it.
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