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1 posted on 11/18/2012 5:02:06 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Not unless they do something about voter fraud. I got whiff of an article that blew my mind. The main reason the GOP won’t do anything is because of 1982 Consent Decree. It is real!


2 posted on 11/18/2012 5:10:23 AM PST by PeachyKeen
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“In 2016, GOP Needs a Candidate Voters Believe In”

RIGHT NOW the GOP needs Candidates that BELIEVE IN CONSERVATISM enough to speak proudly of their own success!

The voters will follow if you lead them.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 5:11:52 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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"Instead, they were about a large group of white voters not showing up. ... The reason this electorate looked so different from the 2008 electorate is almost entirely attributable to white voters staying home."

This is false.

Romney's only 400,000 votes behind McCain, with plenty of votes left to count.

4 posted on 11/18/2012 5:13:01 AM PST by Strategerist
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Don't let the MSM pick the Republican candidate again.
They Picked McCain, they picked Romney and tore the others apart like a pack of hyenas.
(Apologies to hyenas, they at least are doing what they're supposed to to.)

5 posted on 11/18/2012 5:15:34 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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“But listen to the Obama team. There is a less complicated lesson to this election. Voters want to believe in a candidate. If Republicans find that candidate, they will win”.

Horse manure!

Loyalty, despite imperfections, perceived or otherwise, fact or fiction, truth or deception, reality or myth, black or white, all were the mainstay of the Obama campaign.

...and thinking republicans just couldn’t muster any loyalty to anyone, anything, any option, any principle, other than perhaps their own selfish perceptions, rooted in who knows what.

Looking for Reagan is not going to win elections, and elections have consequences. If this election means the party is dead, garnering precious little loyalty, I have a feeling, principled elections are dead, a result of fractured loyalty.

Fully suited in triple layer flame retardant material.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 5:16:21 AM PST by wita
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The GOP gave its base liberal Republicans Juan MeCain & Willard Romney and found out twice that it's Conservative T.E.A. Party base can not be depended on to vote for anyone they put up like the Black base of the Democrat party.

The GOP can ignore its base at its own peril.

Though Sarah Palin saved MeCain from a humiliating loss, a Conservative was not at the top of the 2008 or 2012 ticket.

7 posted on 11/18/2012 5:17:30 AM PST by TexasCajun
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They had 2 chances and blew it all again, Im done with them. They need to drastically change coarse by way of leadership and if true they need to get to work to kill that decree and grow some balls. From what I can see they are all to happy to get down on thier knees in line wanting to kiss the ring of a fraud


9 posted on 11/18/2012 5:20:20 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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I’m watching the late returns coming in carefully to see what there is to the argument that it was a diminished electorate on the Republican side in particular .At least one Freeper has taken up the Daily Kos spin that the turnout will match 2008 when all the late counting, especially CA, is in. Sites differ as to total votes. CNN has made no additions to the totals for about 4 days, though they update at least once in 24 hours. The highest I’ve seen is on Dave Leip at BO63 m +, Romney at 59.4, about 500,000 less than McLain but 2.5 m less than W in ‘04. Whatever the final, this will be a low turnout election, with totals diminished on all side, certainly more diminished on the Obama side. When you consider that it is likely the voting age population went up by 10 m from 2008 to 2012, it is a lock that there were a lot more people of all colors , ages and stripes that could have been won by a better candidate at the top of the ticket (like one who could have hammered Obama on Obama care instead of the one who who had to say “excuse me” every time it was mentioned.)I’ve still got the bottom line that the way Obama governed drove people away by the millions and that he has nothing to build on; there will be no cost to opposing him across the board.


12 posted on 11/18/2012 5:27:29 AM PST by gusopol3
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-Need to stop opening our primaries in Iowa and New Hampshire. We have to hear a bunch of "regular people" saying, "I liked what he was saying, but I wanted to hear more about Childrens Health Care". Republicans need to begin their primary season in Texas and Idaho. Then, you'll hear from more voters saying, "I want a President who isn't a Pu$$y".

-No more open primaries. Republicans should select Republican Presidential candidates.

-No more Blue State candidates. Both McCain and Romney talked about "reaching across the aisle"...I want a Presidential candidate who wants to Democrats to compromise THEIR principles.

-No more candidates over the age of 60. George W. Bush was 54 when he won as President. The other GOP losers were 68, 73, 73, and 65 respectively. NO MORE OLD GUYS.

-Start the GOP ground game NOW. B. Hussein kept non-stop campaigning from the first time he was elected. The GOP needs to begin their 2016 ground game NOW.

- The GOP pollwatcher movement needs to be much stronger. Quite frankly, we were told this election would be "the most important election of our time". Yet, the GOP leadership is treating this as just another election cycle. "Why, sure we wanted to win, but I'm SOOO looking forward to eating the new French brie at Ben Bradlee and Sally Quinn's next soiree, hee hee hee."

The 2012 election wasn't about "reaching the undecided voters"...it was about getting your base out. While Romney was chasing "undecided" rabbits down holes, B. Hussein was getting his base out and to the polls...twice or more if necessary.

Oh, and one more thing...the Democrats in Congress "are not my good friends from across the aisle"...they're the ENEMY. Those bastards destroyed the greatest economy the world has ever seen, and now they want to turn us into a 3rd World $hit hole, with them in the Dachas while ruling over us. F'THEM!

13 posted on 11/18/2012 5:28:00 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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Can you say Marco.....


24 posted on 11/18/2012 5:41:27 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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When will we ever learn...we just cannot expect the GOP to ever be anything near what we want it to be.

We need a PARTY we can believe in.


31 posted on 11/18/2012 5:49:51 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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This is what conservatives always do. They get sidetracked with non issues.

I call it gathering sea shells. I developed the concept to chide my wife who forgets the mission, the main effort. At the Normandy Invasion, she and those arguing here, would have stopped at water’s edge to gather sea shells. The shells are there and should be gathered while the opportunity exists.

That is this thread. Screwing around with mindless blather rather than making the assault and the successful invasion.


32 posted on 11/18/2012 5:50:04 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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Trende is not sure why so many whites didn't vote.

Clueless.

The GOP-E was warned, repeatedly, what would happen if they carpet bombed Conservatives and tried to shove Romney down our throats.

36 posted on 11/18/2012 5:55:13 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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The GOP will need a candidate whose supporters can advocate for them in a sincere way- and that means someone who isn’t a milder version of the incumbent. I voted for the POS Romney but understood it as an act of hypocrisy on my part, being a conservative and voting for a left-winger like Myth. I certainly wouldn’t have told people “I am voting for Romney because I think he’d make a good president” because that wouldn’t be the truth. That’s the sort of support that Romney could not get. All he got was a grudging vote from a good many people on the right- and obviously, that isn’t going to be good enough.


42 posted on 11/18/2012 6:05:05 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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As FR recently demonstrated, it ain't gonna happen no matter who the candidate is. We're all human and most cannot separate themselves from their key concerns/hot buttons. Even Jesus Himself would be trashed by a number of us...

It is a result of being intelligent enough to think and analyze vs. the Left's penchant for moving as a consolidated herd. We would be arguing whether the best apostle was Peter, Paul, Mark, Luke, John, etc., and lose sight that failure to come to some sort of agreement will result in Judas holding the scepter of power.

45 posted on 11/18/2012 6:07:51 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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Edwin Edwards is out of prison and available. Like Mutt, he’ll run on any ticket that’ll have him.


51 posted on 11/18/2012 6:30:48 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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The problem is that conservatives define a “good candidate” differently from liberals.

Conservatives expect a good candidate to have bona fides and a commitment to core values. In short, an actual conservative. Liberals expect a candidate to say the right things to make them feel good.

Hence, Baraq Obama. Hence, Mitt Romney’s failure to out-Obama Obama. The Republican Party will never be able to out-liberal a liberal.


54 posted on 11/18/2012 6:42:31 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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Plouffe is correct that almost all voters are seeking a fantasy to believe in. That is why campaign managers market their candidate as an empty suit, who “cares about people like you.” Democrats have an edge, because their voters tend to be driven by emotion rather than rational thought. They start with the 50% of people with IQ below 100, supplement that with “interested” government employees, benefit collectors and cronies, add fearful “victims” looking for solace, and top it off with higher-IQ but emotionally-driven collectivist ideologues. The Democrats own a coalition of the easily-marketed: the believe-in-Santa voters.

Republican voters are looking for a harder-headed fantasy: a return to what the U.S. “used to be” (i.e., Mayberry in the 1950’s), with real patriotism, rugged individualism and self-reliance, a world where merit and hard work are rewarded, public officials act with decency, competence, prudence, and integrity, the Constitution and rule of law matter, the U.S. always does the right thing on the world stage, all overlaid with a mix of Judeo-Christian “traditional values.”

The Democrats enjoy a fantasy gap, because they market belief in the future (nebulous and perfect), whereas Republicans market belief in the past (concrete and imperfect). The Republicans have a dilemma: few candidates will ever measure up to their fantasy, because it tends to be specific. The fantasy that works for conservatives is not so appealing to moderates and independents, or groups like women, Latinos, blacks, and gays who did not fare so well in the Past.


55 posted on 11/18/2012 6:55:37 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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The Republican Party has to tighten up it’s primary process. In the last 2 elections the Democrats played a big role in selecting our candidate. They seem to get who they want to run against.


57 posted on 11/18/2012 7:01:06 AM PST by Pardeeville Liberator
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Above all, they need to kill voter fraud before it infests the elections!


58 posted on 11/18/2012 7:01:55 AM PST by chrisnj
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