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Excommunicated US priest laicized for public dissent on ordination of women
Life Site News ^ | 11/21/2012 | Thaddeus Baklinski

Posted on 11/23/2012 3:32:15 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: GalaxyAB

If the majority of women voted Obama then no I think not sir.


21 posted on 11/23/2012 7:43:06 AM PST by Howdyneighbor
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To: soycd
This may be difficult for you to understand.

The priest is actually offering a 'sacrifice' albeit unbloody it's still sacrificial. Women shouldn't concern themselves with standing on an altar sacrificing.

Jesus Christ chose as his diciples, as well as the leader he left behind to continue his Church on earth, all men. There was, of course, a reason for this as these single men would devote their lives to sacrifice, even death, to spread the gospel of Jesus.

Priests today are to follow that example and devote their lives to Jesus Christ and to their parishoners. Their role in the priestly life is to set an example for others and not allow their minds to dwell on filthy things like fondling little children. Those priests are destined to spend an eternity in hell after they get that millstone from around their necks.

Women have a different role in a proper society.

They are to bear and rear children, unless they too have entered Church life as a nun, and provide the warmth and comfort that a family deserves in a Christian home.

The sin today is that women want to dress like men and do men things like fighting a faceless enemy in a trench on the front lines. There is something radically wrong with this. A nation that puts their women in combat situations isn't worth defending.

Speaking of defending. We haven't defended our nation for what seems to be like eons.

I realize this is a rather lengthy discourse on your wishing politically correct feminine things on the Catholic Church.

Next week I'll talk to you about why condoms, wanking, abortion, pornography and homosexuality are not good things.

22 posted on 11/23/2012 7:47:10 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Thank you.

They could have saved a few bytes or ink and just said: “Because we say so.” or “So it is written, so it shall be done.”

This is one of those cases where logic holds no sway.


23 posted on 11/23/2012 7:52:14 AM PST by soycd
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To: IbJensen

Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.


24 posted on 11/23/2012 8:00:46 AM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: IbJensen

First, thanks for your outlook on why a mental job is only performed by men.

Second...
>rather lengthy discourse on your wishing politically correct feminine things on the Catholic Church.

Sorry, I asked a question, I have no PC desires or any other BS you wish to inject into my words.

Of course women have no role in trench combat or in battle conditions. All the other strawmen crap having nothing to do with my question deserves no response.

If you don’t think a Nun has devoted all of herself to the Church then I can’t help you.


25 posted on 11/23/2012 8:01:23 AM PST by soycd
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To: IbJensen

Please DO let the door hit you on the way out...


26 posted on 11/23/2012 8:02:52 AM PST by rhinohunter
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To: soycd

Sorry you didn’t take the time to actually read it. You seem to think it needs to be boiled down to a cute catch phrase like “Because we say so” or “So it is written, so it shall be done.” Actually if you feel the need to “save a few bytes of ink” I suppose one could trivialize it to “we do not have the authority”.


27 posted on 11/23/2012 8:04:05 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: soycd

I agree. There is no way you could me with this issue or anything else. Your mind is interesting, however.

Now stay away from me as I don’t care to engage in an intellectual discourse with someone so obviously incapable.


28 posted on 11/23/2012 8:05:04 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: rhinohunter

My thread. Get off....or else you’ll be held in contempt.

Go join a church where the ‘preacher’ is female.


29 posted on 11/23/2012 8:34:05 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen
My thread. Get off....or else you’ll be held in contempt.

No, Ib, you POSTED a thread on JimRob's forum. It is open for discussion, since that is what we do.

It is contempuous for anyone to think otherwise.

That said, tho never part of the largest cult in the world, dedicated to the idea that it holds the ONLY KEYS to Heaven's Gate, I disagree vehemently. I got mine directly from the owner!

Claiming to be the only arbiter of faith makes your group a cult, and I know you will disagree. BUT, I also have an opinion, not based on what my groups Catechism taught me, but based on Scripture. Of course your response would be "NO Sola Scripture".

I am positive their are many good Christians within the RCC group. But, God may have given Peter the keys, but he apparently loaned them to a bunch of hypocrites! For examples, study RCC history of their alleged infallibility"! If your group was truly led by Christ, there would be no great stores of gold and riches. History does not need any of them! They will all burn at the end, in the refinery!

I will pray for the RCC to get right with God. I will welcome your prayers, as well, but I am assured of my salvation. I believe in Christ's sacrifice having been made for any believer, not just being allowed by some guys in elegant gowns touting that they can refuse my right to get some bread or wine in remembrance of our Savior.

There are too many things y'all are willing to overlook within God's Word... and blindly accept it because that is all you were taught. I can give another example of that, but at least your group doesn't promise a bunch of virgins for jihad results (think BOOM!).

John 3:16 says it all! Paul spoke to the Roman church long ago, and noted their PRIDE in their spirituality.

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”[a] 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11 For God does not show favoritism.


30 posted on 11/23/2012 8:59:35 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: NYer; SumProVita; Salvation; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; ...

Ping. Interesting thread and discussions.


31 posted on 11/23/2012 9:24:55 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: autumnraine

autumnraine: “Jesus never did it because societal norms and laws of the time of Jesus wouldn’t allow.”

You’re seriously going to claim that Christ, who was crucified for repeatedly challenging the establishment’s religious rules, wasn’t daring enough to stand up to the “societal norms and laws of the time” concerning women? Do you realize just how nonsensical that is?


32 posted on 11/23/2012 9:48:43 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

AnAmericanMother: “He did exactly what He intended.”

I see you beat me to it. Yes. You’re absolutely right, except I’d modify your statement to say Christ did what God the Father wanted. Christ made it quite clear He was following God’s will. It’s a minor distinction, because Christ and God have complete unity of purpose, but it’s a distinction Christ Himself made.


33 posted on 11/23/2012 9:55:21 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: autumnraine

autumnraine: “In those days (as in some current nations), that kind of talk and thinking would get the woman killed.”

LOL. Seriously. Christ and most of the apostles were brutally killed for the faith, but Christ, who repeatedly bucked the norms of His time, didn’t pick women out of concern for their safety?


34 posted on 11/23/2012 9:59:37 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: vladimir998

Odd isn’t it, that many who criticize the RC Church for minimizing the role of women are the same who accuse the RC Church of worshiping Mary...


35 posted on 11/23/2012 10:03:24 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: COBOL2Java

COBOL2Java: “I suppose one could trivialize it to “we do not have the authority”.”

Actually, that sums it up perfectly. If someone claims to be a Christian, then they’re obligated to follow Christ’s teachings. I, personally, have no problem with women in leadership positions. I have worked (secular jobs) for women in the past and would have no problem doing so again. However, my feelings about the matter are irrelevant to the discussion. The only thing that matters is what Christ said, including the things He taught the apostles which they subsequently shared with us in their writings. I simply have no authority whatsoever to change that.


36 posted on 11/23/2012 10:07:46 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: WVKayaker

All that blather directed against Roman Catholics is nothing but sophomoric rant.

Go start a thread of your own that’s against the Church to which I belong and believe in.

Go kayaking.


37 posted on 11/23/2012 10:24:12 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: autumnraine
And all those female martyrs didn't get killed?

They weren't in the Apostolic Succession, but that didn't stop the persecutions or the martyrdoms.

And Christ knew that. "Take up thy Cross, and follow me."

38 posted on 11/23/2012 10:29:58 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: autumnraine
And all those female martyrs didn't get killed?

They weren't in the Apostolic Succession, but that didn't stop the persecutions or the martyrdoms.

And Christ knew that. "Take up thy Cross, and follow me."

39 posted on 11/23/2012 10:30:03 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: WVKayaker

Oh, and another thing, Kayaker.

For the privilege of using Mr. Robinson’s website I pay twice annually.

How much have you contributed since you first signed on and established your handle and password?


40 posted on 11/23/2012 10:30:33 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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