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To: central_va

“I think the North East power structure would let Texas and a few other states go without a fight.”

I disagree. Texas is the number one oil producer. With exception to the extreme left, those in power realize they need that energy. Most of the central US (red states) produces food, energy and other goodies the blue states need to survive on.

The blue states are basically parasites to the red states and have nothing to offer in return except liberal politics.

To all:
Regarding secession in general, when this subject first started a couple weeks ago I read South Carolina’s pre-civil war secession document. One item mentioned as a reason was the federal governments growing power. Same as today.

I refreshed my history, and it came to light that after several states seceded, the federal troops would not leave. The war did not start until the South fired on federal forces. Again, same today - that is, let’s say Texas secedes, just how do they propose to get the US federal government forces and agencies out?????

What about US federal owned land and other properties?

I see another civil war if anyone tries to enforce secession.


69 posted on 11/28/2012 11:32:40 AM PST by redfreedom (The spineless RINO's have made themselves irrelevent and lost the country for us.)
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To: redfreedom
"I am with the South in life or in death, in victory or in defeat...... I believe the North is about to wage a brutal and unholy war on a people who have done them no wrong, in violation of the Constitution and the fundamental principles of government. They no longer acknowledge that all government derives its validity from the consent of the governed. They are about to invade our peaceful homes, destroy our property, and inaugurate a servile insurrection, murder our men and dishonor our women. We propose no invasion of the North, no attack on them, and only ask to be left alone."

~~Major General Patrick Cleburne C.S.A.

79 posted on 11/28/2012 11:43:17 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: redfreedom

I am sure Texas would be willing to exchange its ownership interest in all the federal properties outside its borders in exchange for those inside the border of the new republic.


81 posted on 11/28/2012 11:45:29 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: redfreedom
Again, same today - that is, let’s say Texas secedes, just how do they propose to get the US federal government forces and agencies out????? What about US federal owned land and other properties? I see another civil war if anyone tries to enforce secession.

That is why I would hope to see a mutual agreement to separate - a no-fault divorce due to irreconcilable differences. With appropriate negotiation and compromise on federal debt, federal lands, and other issues, we could peacefully disentangle the Nanny States from the Free States. I will be moving from my Nanny State to a Free State at the first opportunity! My concern is that the Nanny Staters love power over others too much and would be unwilling to permit freedom to exist peacefully in an adjacent country.

114 posted on 11/28/2012 12:53:27 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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