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To: Kaslin; AbolishCSEU; ecomcon
"Fewer Babies Born is Bad News for America"

Fewer babies is part of the same cultural shift that elected Barack Obama. Can't tell you the number of people who know who care more about their vacations, their cars and homes, and their figures than in having children. We all hear their excuses: "I don't want screw up any children like my parents screwed me up." B.S. These folks are just too self-centered to care about the USA after they kick the bucket.

"Mexican illegal immigrants are not productive. They are dependents."

I don't necessarily disagree with you but have heart, my friend. If we can shut down illegal immigration, send many of them home (with whatever deal we get from the Congress) and finally assimilate those that are already here, you will find that Hispanics make fine Americans. They start businesses, are socially conservative (meaning they will one day be Republicans), they are loyal to the country, and the men make d-mn tough Marines.

Why do you think Texas is so strongly GOP, when it's demographics are similar to California? Because the Hispanics that made it are voting Republican. The CULTURE of Texas makes them that way.

Intermarriage will also eliminate the predisposition of Hispanics to be takers. Example: my daughter is in college and in her freshman dorm there were a number of other kids with Hispanic names like Gonzalez, Rodriguez, Martinez, etc. In spite of their names, these kids were all Caucasian and 100% all-American, meaning a Hispanic father and a white mother, producing white offspring. I think the intermarriage rate of assimilated Hispanics is over 50%.

I for one am not worried about Hispanics , but we must stop the influx first. Also stop giving citizenship to the kids of illegals.

25 posted on 11/30/2012 1:57:13 PM PST by tom h
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To: tom h
I don't necessarily disagree with you but have heart, my friend. If we can shut down illegal immigration, send many of them home (with whatever deal we get from the Congress) and finally assimilate those that are already here, you will find that Hispanics make fine Americans. They start businesses, are socially conservative (meaning they will one day be Republicans), they are loyal to the country, and the men make d-mn tough Marines.

LEGAL IMMIGRATION is the real problem. The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 46 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest level in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

We bring in 1.2 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS EVERY YEAR--87% of whom are minorities as defined by the USG. 25% of the adults lack even a high school degree and three quarters have a high school degree or less.

Hispanics have an out of wedlock birthrate of 50% and the highest school dropout rate of any group. They are natural Dem constituents. They use welfare to a much higher degree than natives.

Why do you think Texas is so strongly GOP, when it's demographics are similar to California? Because the Hispanics that made it are voting Republican. The CULTURE of Texas makes them that way.

Texas is changing. It will follow CA demographically and then electorally. It is just a matter of time.

There were five majority-minority states or equivalents in 2011: Hawaii (77.1 percent minority), the District of Columbia (64.7 percent), California (60.3 percent), New Mexico (59.8 percent) and Texas (55.2 percent). No other state had a minority population greater than 46.4 percent of the total.

Intermarriage will also eliminate the predisposition of Hispanics to be takers. Example: my daughter is in college and in her freshman dorm there were a number of other kids with Hispanic names like Gonzalez, Rodriguez, Martinez, etc. In spite of their names, these kids were all Caucasian and 100% all-American, meaning a Hispanic father and a white mother, producing white offspring. I think the intermarriage rate of assimilated Hispanics is over 50%.

Hispanics can be of any race. 53% self-identify as white. But our laws incentivize Hispanics to identify as a minority. Affirmative action and minority business set asides encourage group indentity, no matter how slight.

Minorities and immigrants vote Democrat two to one. The Reps are delusional if they think they will get the majority of their vote. By 2042 half of the country will be minorities.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 3:46:34 PM PST by kabar
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To: tom h

The only part of your post I agree with is `we must stop the influx first’.
Chavez’s and your `It’s A Wonderful Life’ anecdotes are all very heartwarming, especially this time of the year, but those damned facts are stubborn things, hmmm?

Since the author is pounding on demography, I believe it worth pointing out that Mark Steyn mentions Europe’s experience with importing immigrants to do the work that the children the French, Dutch and English failed to have are (of course) not doing.
They found themselves with substantial, discrete sub-cultures living among them that had figured out the wonders of the welfare state. And they become surly, demanding and militant. By those things I mean: running riot/burning cars, assaulting, intimidating older citizens/women, and actually setting aside portions of the cities as Sharia governed and not subject to the laws of their host countries.
So Ms. Chavez is confusing immigration with human host-parasitism when she mentions legal immigrants and illegals in the same sentence, as she does above.

The remainder of your rose-colored view of the ongoing invasion isn’t at all helpful in addressing the overriding problem that you recognize and that Obama seems determined to solve with a blanket amnesty, if he could to it with a stroke of the pen.
I will say this for the GOP: They held firm in refusing to participate in “comprehensive immigration reform” (SEE: “amnesty”) albeit, as we held their feet to the fire.


39 posted on 11/30/2012 4:25:52 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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