Posted on 12/08/2012 7:11:34 AM PST by Lakeshark
Now that Barack Obama is safely ensconced in the White House for another four years, several items which should have been noticed or revealed before Election Day have come to the fore. Collectively, they tell us two things: that the pre-election economy was worse than voters were led to believe, and that the prospects for meaningful improvement under the current regime are bleak at best. Additionally, in at least one instance, economic activity itself was likely manipulated.
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The probable gamesmanship occurred at Government/General Motors, which is still effectively under Obama administration control, still on track to saddle U.S. taxpayers with a loss of $25 billion or more, and still losing market share. Despite already-bloated inventories at its dealers, GM’s production lines ran full throttle during September and October. Thanks to that ramp-up and unimpressive sales growth, retail inventories grew by an astonishing 99,000 in October and November.
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News in the housing market, particularly concerning sales of new single-family homes, suddenly went from pre-election exuberance to post-election bleakness.
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I'm already there.
Yeah. Me too.
The working class needs to have enough supplies to last them about a year (and a way to protect them.)
After that, the lesson should be clear. The politicians aren't handing out free candy because they love you. They do it for themselves, and when things go south, "You're on your own, dude."
They didn't give a darn about anything other than "getting theirs"!
I’m already there.
The economy never really got better
Whew! I thought it was just me...
First, people don't need to be told by the government about the economy. They live in it and they know what their economy is like.
Second, there seems to be something about human nature that causes people to seek more (not less) government during a crisis. Given that reality, hard times do not seem to favor conservatives in elections.
Oh, it will! When the democrats discover their politicians are no where to be found and there's no one else to steal for them, they're going to start stealing for themselves.
It'll be a while before they understand what it means to be self regulating and self accountable. Once they understand they have to share the WORK and sharing the wealth was just a lie designed to keep the politicians in power, things will change for the better.
That isn't how I remember it. At the time, while there were gas lines everywhere, the media was saying that things were looking up. I remember a media and a government establishment hard set against Reagan, and soft-soaping Carter's errors.
They LAUGHED at Reagan... 'Choppers down in the desert' was blamed exclusively on an 'incompetent' military... There have ALWAYS been hidden foreign donations... And the 'death spiral' could have just as easy happened then as now, except that the fall would not have been as far.
We may have taken Rather out, but don't think that that was his first rodeo. And every one of the talking heads of his era were exactly the same thing.
They've evolved in how they present things, and have gotten much better (from our perspective, worse) at their propaganda. They figured it our after Reagan beat them [...]
While I do agree to a certain degree, again, you seem to forget: The TEA Party could not have happened then. Chick-Fil-A couldn't have happened then. What the media did to confound those movements or trivialize them didn't matter one whit, because those movements happened from without the sphere of their influence, in large part due to the free flow of information we now have, and wonderful places like our own FR which also could not have happened then.
[...] I doubt even he [Reagan] could have won this time.
I fully disagree. The base stayed home. next time, run a principled Conservative and watch the fireworks.
Romney didn't get the TEA Party folks, or the Chick-Fil-A folks... But a Conservative certainly would - And then I, like Rush once did, would have a "see, I told you so" moment, and you would understand.
Conservatism was stone-cold dead at the time. Everyone but Rush was saying so.... Guess what happened. Conservatives still FAR outnumber anything else in the country. Last I looked, 65% self-identified with some degree of Conservatism.
The problem now is the same one we had back then - an elitist GOP leadership that is opposed to Conservatives, and a Conservative base that is every bit the same fractured constituency it was back then - It takes a full-on rock-ribbed Conservative to get the votes, because anything less will cause those fractures to appear and the Conservative Base destroys itself.
It has never been the case that 'boogey-man' politics has ever worked, such as was played by the GOP this time. Pragmatism has never won the day. Appeasers have never succeeded. And neither has '!UP! the middle'.
You have to give Conservatives something to vote *FOR*
Massive bartering will soon be the order of the day. Our minders yammer about our “carbon footprint.” Intelligent people will be decreasing their “financial footprint.” The stealth economy flourishes in every centrally controlled economy, as it did for seven decades in the USSR.
I’m beginning to think Idiocracy was a documentary.
If the morons couldn’t tell when they put gas in their car or bought food at the store, then no. They will never know or if they knew, will never admit it.
Actually, Sarah WOULD have overcome the media bias, if she had not been reined in and betrayed by McCain’s handlers, who had been lent to him by none other than Mitt Romney.
She had to stay within the limits that McCain set for her, since she was his V.P. candidate. And those limits involved letting herself be interviewed by a couple of liberal presstitutes—not on live camera, either, so they could cut and edit the interview to make her look as bad as possible. And to admit to being so stupid that she could not be permitted to have any live press conferences. And so forth.
She still came over strong, but could not overcome all that sabotage from her own party.
I’ve had interesting arguments that now that contraception and abortion are “free”, it is much easier for the government to mandate it.
Whether the government mandates contraception or abortion for those on welfare (as a cost control measure) or for a general “you can’t have a kid without a permit” Agenda 21 rule for everyone is up to debate. But forcing people to prevent children in the name of the needs of the many is now a real possibility.
Sure, they wanted to get their fair haired, golden boy back into the White Hut.
Republicans need to create a black list of consultants who “helped” McCain and Romney so that their failures do not cost us another election.
Agreed. Or maybe the fact that they had a monopoly on information gave an air of impartiality... and now, since the monopoly is gone, their shrill defiance is a form of panic.
The media have long since surrendered that facade, and it has emboldened them in ways that would have shocked Americans even in 1979.
Almost every facet of American society would shock Americans from 1979. It is an amazement to me how far we have fallen in one generation.
And that means something. I will even venture this far: I would wager there are FAR more people who believe the media is impartial, fair and fully factual than people who believe anything, anywhere on the Internet can be true.
I don't think that is true... Maybe it is my geography or my social network, but I find most folks to be incredibly jaded toward all news - There is a prevalent awareness that there is *no* impartiality. At least on the internet, one can judge which side a site is on, as they wear their bias on their sleeves.
Even yet, the MSM thinks it is impartial. They are blind to their bias. only 'they' are 'journalists'... all the rest is mere blogging.
Wrong. We’re in the second recession of the depression that started in 2008.
You forgot Honey Boo Boo.
I figure we can take them out in the old way if we really want to.
An enemy is an enemy, no matter what he calls himself.
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